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Re: Counterprotestors confront Minutemen, Neo-Nazis at Capitol

This is the biggest load of horse dung I ever read. I saw what happened. First of all the 5 masked anti-minutemen protestors stood at the back of the crowd and attampted to disrupt things. They were noticed but did not disrupt the Minutmen. The Nazis came and looked like something from a bad acting troop and there were only two. If I remember correctly it was the Minutemen who told the Nazis to go to hell as reported by Lou Dobbs on CNN if you need proof you can get a transcript. Also this claim that the Minutmen are KKK is totally ridiculous, if you look at the website under NEWS MEDIA you can see that the group accepts anyone or any race, creed, color, gender ect. There was more then one hispanic person with them, several african Americans, Several immigrants, several people who are married to immigrants and whats this NO WHITE SUPREMECISTS! Try researching a subject before you write about it. It's strange I didn't find anything the minutemen said offensive or racist and I myself am an immigrant. I checked out their website when I got home. These men and women are trying to stop these migrants from being exploited and treated as slaves, trying to help is not what a nazi or KKK would do. They also make it clear that they do no oppose LEGAL immigration.

If you need proof read it from the horses mouth not the mouth of an amature.

www.minutemanhq.com/project/LEO.html
 
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Re: Re: Counterprotestors confront Minutemen, Neo-Nazis at Capitol

Look man, very few people actually say that they are racists. Did William Rehnquist, back in the early 1960s, when he was the head of Operation Eagle Eye, down in Arizona, challenging the voting qualifications of African Americans at the polls who were going to vote, claim that he was a racist? No, what they simply said was that he and his Republican friends were defending the law. In effect, though, what they did was racist, since the laws at that time were enacted to discourage disadvantaged African American people from voting, and their challenges were almost exclusively against African American people.

There have been questions raised about whether the immigration law itself is racist and whether the best remedy (if you could clear that huge hurdle) is to harrass and confront illegal immigrants. Both tactics, however "nonviolent", and however they've been applied, are inherently racist, and if not that, then bigoted (favoring Americanism over anything and anyone else).

And, just because you might be an immigrant doesn't make it less so. I had people who were at one time close to me who were Greek immigrants, who should have known about the problems they had getting into this country. And, none of them would have claimed to be racist. But, they wouldn't support black families coming into their suburban working class neighborhood because it would drive down property values, and they wouldn't support Haitian refugees for no reason that I can figure out to this day. They had many good qualities and didn't think of themselves as racist and anti-immigrant, but they were racist and anti-immigrant, though they were themselves immigrants.

There have been issues raised above in my posts above; I'd suggest you answer them. Stop rehashing the same stuff. Just because someone says they aren't a racist doesn't make it so.

In fact, it's a lot like the KKK because the minutemen try to disguise their racist intentions behind a mask of respectability (just as few people know who really is in the KKK). At least those idiot Nazi's that showed up understood the implications of what the Minutemen project was about and had the nerve to be open about their racism. You all live in denial, cloaked behind the white sheet of a law that protects and gives advantages to white male citizens (including me, and it sickens me that the law has set me against all my sisters and brothers). And, you do more than burn crosses in someone's lawn; you actually go out and confront the poorest of the poor - day laborers. You may not shoot them dead, but you make it that much harder for them to live.

Jim Macdonald
 

Re: Re: Re: Counterprotestors confront Minutemen, Neo-Nazis at Capitol

There is a difference between being anti-immigrant and being against Illegal immigration. The laws of the United States were created to protect the AMERICAN people. I had to wait 10 years to immigrate LEGALLY into this great nation. Poland was under communist control and we had to secretly meet with American contact from the ebassy. Some people were killed by the Soviets and Secret police. So you think we need to abolish all laws and just let everyone do whatever they please? Why should we give one or two groups of immigrants who come and cause crime and bring gangs and drugs and advantage over Legal immigrants like myself who risked death to come over for a better life and an education. I am now a Doctor of American history, wonder if I could have done that in Poland. I fully respect the Mexican people who are coming here to legally make a better life. But I say this to any immigrant, you are coming to another country, they are nice enough to allow you to stay, OBEY THE LAW, LEARN ENGLISH, WORK HARD.
 

Re: Re: Counterprotestors confront Minutemen, Neo-Nazis at Capitol

The horse's mouth didn't mention that the co-founder Jim Gilchrist is a member of a hate group and the political party that he ran for congress with is also a white supremacist party. Then there is John Clark who was also there bitching about Jews and what not.

You ought to stop with your cliched conservative defenses against the racism charge that once again you cannot beat.
 

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