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Re: Disrupting the Minuteklan

That's hilarious that minutemen think Bush has an "open border agenda". The third highest reason for a person to go to federal prison in this country is for immigration offences. And in case you haven't read the papers today, Bush is sending the National Guard to do border patrol, thereby even further militarizing the already over-militarized border. Yes indeed, "you might be a fascist if..."
 
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Re: Re: Disrupting the Minuteklan

Well, yes, Bush has an open borders agenda. Enforcement against businesses that hire illegals have plummeted under Jorge compared to Clinton. Bush could care less about the invasion. He and his corproate buddies want their cheap labor. The leftists of course could give a shit about the working man, it's too much fun to listen to their ethnic studies professors about how the illegals are sticking it to whitey.

As far as the national guard goes, it is an obvious ploy to quell the GOP grassroots revolt. He assured his buddy Fox that it was just "temporary" and he won't build a wall.

Bush is the biggest leftist to ever be president. Higher spending, new welfare entitlements, a neocon war to "spread democracy" to the deprived without even the pretense of caring about the American national interest, the Mexican invasion, and centralization of executive power that would make FDR blush. Bush is the best thing that ever happened to the Left.
 

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I'd have to agree with most of what your above comment says. But I can't take seriously any claims of a mexican "invasion". Invasion is what the U.S. military is doing to Iraq. I don't know of any neighborhoods in the U.S. that have been bombed by Mexicans recently. Mexicans aren't dragging U.S. citizens out of their homes at night, handcuffing them, putting bags over their heads, and then taking them to detention centers to be tortured. In fact, it's a lot more likely that a Mexican will be kidnapped by U.S. citizens in uniforms and taken to a detention center to be tortured. Mexicans haven't used chemical weapons like white phosphorous and MK 77 firebombs against the U.S. Coming into this country to work hard, low-pay jobs is hardly an invasion. As for workers getting screwed by the low wages, that's true, and it's also true that Bush and his corporate friends love the low-wage labor they can get by exploiting immigrants. But the blame for that is not on the immigrants, it's on the corporate scum who exploit them. Too often in this country people point the blame downward, accusing the victims instead of the victimizers. The blame needs to be pointed upwards. Immigrants are not the reason for the exploitation of workers. It's the greedy guys at the top who need to be deported, not immigrants. Deported to where? How about the North Pole?
 

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You'll probably hate to be agreeing with the right wing fascist, but yes, that's true. The corporate scum who hire illegals should be put in jail because of their treason. Leftists love to talk about the "externalties" of capitalism. The biggest externalities right now are the increased costs of health care, education, crime, environmental damage, and all the rest that are passed to the taxpayer while businesses build up their bottom line. The middle class is subsidizing its own destruction.

Where we probably disagree is on culture and the idea that the illegals are helpless victims. This IS an invasion that threatens the existence of the American nation. I think Americans have a national culture and that they have a right to preserve it. Racism, to me, seems like a silly word nowadays, reduced to what Orwell said of fascism -- "No one knows what it means anymore except something vaguely bad." (Incidentally, I'm also opposed to the Iraq War, as I would argue all real conservatives should be.)

Now I'm sure you'll have some arguments about why I'm a racist and I'll have some arguments about why the entire concept is stupid, but it really doesn't matter. The populist right and the radical left will cancel each other out -- and the corporations and Bush will keep their profits while we scream at each other in the street and type arguments back and forth here. The whole situation is absurd, but there's really no way out.

Oh well. See you guys at the next protest.
 

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