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Re: Disrupting the Minuteklan

Your protest effected no change, didn't generate more communication, or bring the two sides more toward the center...

The minuteman message apparently resounds better in the halls of Congress and the White House.

Standing on sidewalks screaming that these people must be racists and that no one is illegal as the sum total of your position sounds ridiculous.

They can point to facts and figures, costs and crimes. You? insults.

They sit in a desert to uphold the rule of law (that part keeps being left out of the discussion) to demonstrate their belief. You? What...left work early to be at the rally then went back to a friends place and bragged about how well you trounced those evil nazis? Mocked the minority members of the group as being Uncle Toms? real enlightened....

You denounce these actions as racism. All this does is demonstrate that you don't even know what the problem is. This has nothing to do with skin color. You want an open and free border? Then come up with a plan. Show me how that socially and fiscally we can absorb all the huddled masses that want to be here and I will be behind you 100%. The problem? It can't be done.

Thanks to you we finally have troops on the border and nice big fence.
 
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Re: Re: Disrupting the Minuteklan

If it were true that we accomplish nothing, then why are so many right-wing wackos so pissed at us? Why are there so many angry racists posting angry messages on this thread? If we were truly as ineffective as you suggest, then all you right-wing wackos wouldn't be wasting your time trying to get us to stop what we're doing. You're right that the minuteklan's message resounds better in the halls of congress and the white house than our message does. Slimy politicians have always been more tied to racist interests than they have been to freedom. But real people, thinking people, decent people, see the minutemen for the scum that they are. Don't forget, There were millions in the streets for immigrants rights in the past couple of months. The minutemen could only muster up a few dozen angry white racists to come out in support of their KKK agenda. But while decent people don't like the minutemen, the KKK and neo-nazi groups sure do seem to support the minuteman agenda!
 

Re: Re: Disrupting the Minuteklan

So, why should there be borders and why are people illegal? We've been through these strawmen on multiple threads on this subject, but if you want to go through this exercise again, let's go about it.

Otherwise, there are some very good discussions on both sides in earlier threads this year on the immigration issue, the minuteman issue, as well as dealing with the American Renaissance conference.
 

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