Oops. My apologies to the poster 'Tell The Truth'. I had not read your second more verbose post, and it is clear to me now that you are not a troll. Some of the points made in the satiric post above i think still stand, though.

Assuming no one is stupid enough to vote for a Dem or a republican (or perhaps at all). The concerns over feel-good protests and cushy 'organiser' jobs are very real. I can apprecciate the annoyance that the 'march in a cirle and leave' crowd never seem to support us when we charge the police lines.

All that aside, lets just let them have their show, and we'll have ours. Each has its weaknesses. HOWEVER the actions of both groups compliment each other in a weird way. The large (tens of thousands IS large pls dont call me a liar again) protests affect those in the public who, sheeplike, will not say they oppose something unless they feel they are in a larger movement. Th radical actions push the boundries of what is imaginable and shift the whole spectrum of action to the left, or wherever.

Sorry for the long post,

a friend