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Re: Radical Youth Contingent and Students for a Democratic Society March Overview

Amen. Lets not split hairs between our brothers and sisters.
 
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Re: Re: Radical Youth Contingent and Students for a Democratic Society March Overview

splitting hairs can definatley be detrimental, however so too can clling a radical march and without the right knowledge and intentions. I don't ike that the SDS 'claimed' this march for a few reasons. particulalry, because the radical bloc always rolls from dupont, they just slapped a name on it, secondly, there's a fuckload of non-students involved also, ages ranging upwards of the 18-22 college years, and most importantly,when the first lines were broken i saw a lot more stereotypically dressed 'black blockers' up front than anyone else. I'll be damned someday to think im rolling up to the cops and then have a signficant number fall back. The thing is that, we all know what the bloc is down for, im no so sure what the sds crew is however. once the lines were broken and the capital stormed, sds people started coming out of the ground and the statues and the woodwork. i really think that it was positive to have the bloc and sds together, but no one knows what the sds people are down for. Its psychologically dangerous to think you have a bloc of 500 people, but against cops, 250 of them will fall back or step off. Im not trying to make accusations, just elucidate on possible problems. finally, who the fuck was that sds dud at the capital who got on the bullhorn saying something like " yeah yeah its great to see sds out , theres a lot of other groups here too" i yelled " what the fuck, black bloc?!?!" i love having a new (old)youth radical movement in sds, but, lets think about who's controlling (or in possession of the illusion of controlling) what. the answer should be "no one" or "all of us" right? some thing i was thinking about yesterday, all in all a great day though.
 

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true, true. i had issues with the total nonexistence of facilitation in the street spokes at the capitol and later. but i think that is due to inexperience in those situations.

also, the bloc has always been a tactic. an affinity group of RCYB even took the streets and participated in the RAAB for bush's first inaugural. so anyone can be bloc. it just happens to be a tactic specifically developed by anarchists since 1991 in the US, and since 1980's autonomen in germany.

experienced folks were also in short supply (how many there rocked the RACB at A16? maybe a handful including me. maybe only a couple of us. and if you don't know what i am referring to, then you probably didn't.) case in point, when someone shouted "fuck the corporate media" as a chant later, a lot of people had actually never heard that before. but that is not the fault of newer participants.

so why didn't any more experienced anarchists take the streets? because 98% of the time these marches have been useless in the past two years. last major showdown in dc that was worth it as an action, it seems, was the second inaugural. others had pronounced the black bloc tactic dead...yet again, and never bothered to show. others got cynical. some just were not in the loop, and now they are jealous of everyone who was there. so they will be back.

but what needs to happen to make this all continue to work, and not factionalize anarchists (and the sds'ers in bloc were anarchists)?

some in SDS need to learn what consensus entails. a hint: it does not entail making speeches through megaphones at your fellow bloc'ers. but accusations have been made a lot of times in the past about people being authoritarian, so we need to remember to focus on positives too. it rocked! ok.

and experienced direct actionists need to be there with the inexperienced ones: younger folks get to learn new tactics by watching someone do it rather than by learning the hard way like we did, and we old surly ones get energy from people who haven't actually given up hope yet or burned out on the movement.

it takes a lot to keep this shit going, a lot of patience and a thick skin. as someone who came to this as his first serious black bloc action in years, don't give up. work together, but respect autonomy.

rock.
 

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I didn't think I recognized the bull horn guy from the march. I came out with the GMU SDS and i think we might have an anarchist or two, but we certainly weren't all anarchists. I was at the front pushing past police and even made it past with only like 4 other people, not decked out in the black or subscribing to anarchism(socialism instead)
There is an issue with SDS's stance on things which arrives because the reformed group is still newish. That guy should not have userped(sp) our push to the capitol, but his intentions were good, to move past celebrating and do something else.
Point being, it was not soley an anarchist march, or an SDS march(whatever we happen to believe); i brought out a friend who is perfectly content to vote for the democrats and she pushed past the police with the rest of us. We have to unite over our common goals.
 

Re: Re: Re: Radical Youth Contingent and Students for a Democratic Society March Overview

first, the radical bloc was called by a local sds chapter. soooo that is why there were sds banners. the person at the capitol with the bull horn was a member of sds, but not someone who joined the radical march so you cannot really include them in the sds-ers that were at the radical march. I dont know about you but i saw members of sds pushing police barricades, storming steps, taking the streets, and doing some other pretty rad things at the recruitment center. just as with any group there are assholes involved, whether it be sds or any other anti-authoritarian group.
 

Re: Re: Re: Re: Radical Youth Contingent and Students for a Democratic Society March Overview

The youthful historical reenactors calling themselves, the "New SDS", imprinted their name on the same call, for the same anti-authoritarian contingent that meets in the same place, at every stinking DC march. Taking credit for it is a page out of the old little red book.
The SDS banners were there, because like any formal, static organization, collegiate-tribute or otherwise, they have to expend resources to promote and sustain the organization, which soon becomes the first priority.
Organization comes from struggle, not the other way around.
I'm not alone in not being able to take the "New SDS" and more seriously than the "New Black Panther Party."
 
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