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Re: Re: Re: Re: The Demo in DC: Chirpy Slogans, Empty City

i guess that's why all the anarchists are stockpiling weapons like the right-wing militias?

no. it really is a circus show. and if anarchists really knew that more than most in the movement, what gives? where's the apathy towards politics? and they aren't afraid. if they were afraid, they'd do something. but they aren't they're not overly concerned, ironically they are apolitical. being against over political actions, they are more anarchists socially. while the anarchist movement has all these codes they must follow in order not to offend anyone but the Right. if there was a real effective anarchist movement, we'd all be slaughtered, beaten, or drugged for offending people. the anarchist movement is as totalitarian as the next one. and so, a bunch of white suburban kids dress up in black in a circus show, so they can go home and tell all their buddies how kool they are. never for real change.
 
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Demo in DC: Chirpy Slogans, Empty City

To the person who said anarchists never accomplish real change: I disagree. YOU made the classic (usually "white") middle class liberal generalization of anarchism: "They're all a bunch of disorderly white college kids dressed in black." This is not the case. While the anarchist movement IN THE U.S. is plagued by elements of sexism and white privilege, the worldwide anarchist movement has millions of working people, people of color, women, and homosexuals. Latin America probably has one of the strongest anarchist/anti-capitalist movements today (especially Argentina and possibly Venezuela). The anarchist movements in Spain and Greece are some of the most militant. Some of the most prominent anarchists in the U.S.--or at least those that sympothize with anarchist/anti-capitalist ideals are Professors Howard Zinn and Noam Chomsky--both over 70 yrs of age ( and both from working or middle class families, Chomsky being a Wobbly and Zinn a civil rights veteran), Lorenzo Komboa Ervin (a famous anarchist of color), and Starhawk (a female pagan anarchist). ANARCHISTS ARE NOT APOLITICAL. Anarchists are generally opposed to tendencies within the capitalist Left that are minor reforms. They generally strive for "the bigger picture"--the abolition of the wage system, the State, etc. However, this does not mean that libertarian socialists do not celebrate small gains or work for immediate results in the current system--anarchists are active in political prisoner support (the Anarchist Black Cross and the Anarchist Black Cross Federation), race issues (Anarchist People of Color, the IWW, and some anarchists in Anti-Racist Action), womens issues (some being members of Planned Parenthood), gay rights issues, the anti-globalization movement and the anti-capitalist movement. It might interest you to know that the black attire SOME anarchists and anti-capitalists use at protests is a TACTIC called the Black Bloc that was invented in Germany by anti-capitalists (and squatters, I believe) known as the Autonomen. It was designed to show solidarity with the movement, as well as anonymity--the black masks obviously protect against police surveillance. Not all anarchists employ property destruction--a tactic used by SOME Black Blocs--and it should also be mentioned that all anarchists oppose senseless violence, especially against innocent people, and that property destruction is usually aimed at multinational corporations like Mc Donald's, the Gap, Coca-Cola, Nike or Starbucks whose parent companies employ harsh labor tactics and engage in environmental destruction in the Third World (especially India).

Please show some intelligence and integrity and do NOT follow the senseless stereotypes of anarchists in the media. Do yourself a favor and research a topic before you make judgements about it. Do not spout utter garbage about something you clearly know nothing about.
 

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Demo in DC: Chirpy Slogans, Empty City

Thank you Avapxia, that was a good response!
 

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The Demo in DC: Chirpy Slogans, Empty City

Thanks. That crap just gets to me...especially when liberals--who are supposed to be the "bastions of individual liberty"--do it. I mean, conservatives and other overt capitalists do it all the time...we know what these guys are up to. We really have to watch out when the liberals discredit anarchism, especially since the majority of those (Americans, at least) that are interested in social change fit into that political spectrum.
It's been almost two years, and I'm still frustrated about Alexander Cockburn's comment in The Nation that Luigi Galleani was the Osama bin Laden of his time.
 

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