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Re: The Rand Study and CM David Catania Call for the Misuse of the Tobacco Fund / The Continuing Mortgage Lending Scandal
Date Edited: 17 Jul 2008 12:45:42 AM
Except that neither thread was about audio compression.
"There is no way to play MP3 files in the US without breaking the law"
Oh, really?
Tell me, which law(s) do you believe are broken when you play an MP3 file?
(Copyright laws involving pirated music excepted.)
"or using non-free software."
Are you kidding?
There are hundreds of free applications to play MP3s.
Pretty much every OS comes with one pre-installed, unless you are unfortunate enough to be stuck with Lunix.
"Ogg/Vorbis isn't patent-encumbered,"
Which means absolutely nothing to the end user.
Unless you are in the business of selling hardware to encode/decode audio streams, patents and licensing are non-issues.
"and furthermore, it achieves better compression and quality."
That depends on the bitrates.
At 128Kbps (which the OP used) or higher, modern codecs are statistically tied in perceived quality in public listening tests.
"If you want people dedicated to freedom to listen to your audio, provide it in a format that can be played in the Free World."
That would be MP3, which is playable everywhere.
It certainly isn't Ogg.
Post your files in Ogg and you have just limited your audience to only the most tech-savvy of readers.
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Re: Re: The Rand Study and CM David Catania Call for the Misuse of the Tobacco Fund / The Continuing Mortgage Lending Scandal
"Public listening tests" have no bearing on true quality.
By clicking the link in the button, you can get an Ogg-supporting media player, even for your toy windows "OS". Ogg is universally supported even outside of the Free World. But since you seem to be an advocate of non-free software and non-free users, I'm going to stop this. Fascists like you aren't to be talked to, they're to be smashed.
Re: Re: Re: The Rand Study and CM David Catania Call for the Misuse of the Tobacco Fund / The Continuing Mortgage Lending Scandal
Prove it.
Cite the relevant sections of patent law.
"'Public listening tests' have no bearing on true quality."
Double-blind listening tests are the only scientifically and statistically valid method of judging perceptual quality of lossy audio compression techniques.
If you disagree, why don't you tell me which method you prefer?
"By clicking the link in the button, you can get an Ogg-supporting media player, even for your toy windows "OS"."
I have a Mac.
Strange that you would call Windows a toy, as it is used in most work situations.
"Ogg is universally supported even outside of the Free World."
Ogg is like betamax.
Marginally better quality in some situations.
But hardly anyone can play it.
"But since you seem to be an advocate of non-free software and non-free users"
LOL
I use free software every day, as do most people with a computer.
Nice non-sequitar though.
"Fascists like you aren't to be talked to, they're to be smashed."
Are all Ogg zealots as violent as you?
Re: Re: Re: The Rand Study and CM David Catania Call for the Misuse of the Tobacco Fund / The Continuing Mortgage Lending Scandal
who is the real fascist here?