There came a 'Day of Fire'.

That is the burning feel of freedom in the eyes of the unbelievers and it warms the faithful as our nations vital interests are one with our belief that God guides our Fuhrer.

I was there for all of these shots, there are peolpe in these that i stood besdie screaming. Though the pics are good, it doesnt give the situation justice. we were pushed and caged, we were restricted and brutally hit with spray. i saw a man fall down after not only getting sprayed with high power peper spray directly to the face, but a gate fell on his head.

for all of you that were there with us, thank you. and for those of you who couldnt get there, do what you can to end the police state, the war, and bring our own people a democracy.

It's a shame when your right of freedom of speech-HURTS!!!!

too bad they didn't use shotguns with rocksalt. you people should get a life!

We U.S. citizens pay taxes to enjoy the freedom the United States has to offer and for the police to protect us.

We citizens do not deserve to be treated like criminals.

I was protesting in D.C. as well and was treated poorly.

The parade should be by and for the people, not for those who give money or votes to a particular party.

The president does not own the streets.

“To announce there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American Public.” -Teddy Roosevelt

In other words, dissent is patriotic and protesters in D.C. were not endangering anyone.

Whoever thinks protesters need to "get a life" should realize that our country was founded by a large group of radicals that protested the tyranny that tried to oppress us in our home-land.

Without protest, we are not truly Americans, but like sheep going to slaughter.

If you think the powers that be give a F*ck about you, YOU need to get a life. They want your money and your vote you ignorant AS*-H*le.

Thank a protester and a soldier for your freedom. We both protect our freedom and liberty. It is the top 1% that tries to screw you.

I just want to cry when I look at these pictures. Why can't people march for thier beliefs without the government interfering. It stifles our freedom of speach. How can they use violance against us to try to silence us. Don't they know that it will just make us work harder for our cause. I wanted to go to that march so bad. I couldn't because I had no one to watch my dog. I know a pathetic reason. But my heart is with all of you who went.

That is truly evil. How can those cops do that? They have these sadistic looks on their faces as they point pepper spray at a human beings face. No empathy? My god...truly evil.

Revolution is coming...we can't just sit back and take this for much longer. looking at the beautiful guy in the last pic squinting his face like that is making my stomach churn in knots.

Foment the CounterCulture people....

www.secession.net, et al.

Gee..... howd that happen? What a rocket scientist

symbolism+liberalism = zero

I am heartbroken at what has happened to America. I hope you frightened them and they have nightmares. It will take time but the people will take America back.

"It was a symbolic act against the fences and barricads of the empire weather they be physical, economic or political."

it isn't your place to speak for the people who took this action and what their feelings or intentions were.

regardless, great pictures. wear goggles next time!

This is fucking ridiculous. When people are getting arrested and abused for doing nothing at all, they're just giving us more reasons to protest. This is just makes me so angry.

"Captain, there's been a breach in the perimeter. Two sections of the fence have been torn down."

"Anyone get in?"

"No, sir."

"Well then put it back up again, will you?"

"I can't, sir, the protesters are closing in and getting in the way. They are ignoring our commands to disperse."

"Well then, use some pepper spray on them, get that fence back up, and secure the perimeter already!"

"Yes, sir."

"i would like to point out there is no war, ...and this is not wartime"

Trimmed mp3 (less than 1MB) originally posted in full on indymedia a few days ago, interview with Gore Vidal.

How Vidal sees the war as a way for the Bush junta to steal taxpayers money and pepper spray or lock up (or torture) anyone they want to.

This is not about the petty tactical conflict between the democrats and republicans or between so called liberals and conservatives.

It is a fight between the haves and have-nots, which is fast turning into the lives and live-nots in most of the world.

Thank you for all your kind words. I hope to see you all on April 16th at the IMF/World Bank meeting protests. I’ll be there, but this time with goggles.

So that’s me in the photo with the face full of pepper canon. I obliviously could not see it, but my friends told me that one of the most horrifying parts of the incident was the rich people watching, laughing and taking pictures from the windows of the hotel on the corner while drinking champagne,

I high powered Marine sniper rifle would serve a nice purpose and alleviate the world of those white fucking pigs looking out the window Johnny's pictures.

listen up hard chargin devil dogs... start killing cops, rich people and politicians.... it would be a hell of a lot more fun than defencless Iraqi women and children.... just admit it!

That's awful

$40,000,000.00 + George W BUSH = ZERO


No, I'm not a "Liberal," but I can add.

I was there. it was awfull. if you watch the video of Bush going down Penn. Ave. his motorcade speeds up as they drive by this scene. Guess we scared his boys a little.

I was there. it was awfull. if you watch the video of Bush going down Penn. Ave. his motorcade speeds up as they drive by this scene. Guess we scared his boys a little.

and even when we were being completely peaceful, they sprayed us. it was completely unjustified and also, quite terrifying that humans can be so numb to others pain.

get your rifle, come back to the united states of america, and begin shooting.

" get your rifle, come back to the united states of america, and begin shooting."

Don’t be ridiculous, violence in this case is beyond stupid...and NOT the way to win. We can never beat the US police or Army with force, not in a million years. The only way to win is to create a situation where the powers that be must put down their weapons. A situation where they cannot use force against you because by doing so it will only make your movement stronger.

Come on, start the real revolution. Come into the streets so we can eliminate you vermin once and for all. The simple fact is that you will not be satusfied with anything less than the destruction of america and we can't allow that. The amusing part is that you are the new Nazis and don't even realize it. Your drones being force fed crap by the 60's losers who wormed their way into your colleges because they were failures everywhere else. They indoctrinated you and one they lost their communist dream they turned you loose to help them create their sick brave new world. Think about it for a minute. Why does your "leadership" always tell you to shout slogans and shout down those who agree with you? They are afraid if you enter into any meaningful discussion you will find out that although you do differ there is logic and humanity on both sides. That leads to rational action and they can't allow that. Unfortunately you have been so indoctrinated by this sick scum it will probably result in open conflict where you'll wind up being put down. Trust me, no matter what your being told you can't win. It might help you to look into the backgrounds of some of your leaders and read their writings with a critical mind. Understand, I didn't say negative, I said critical. Take Zinn for example. His Peoples History is a self proclaimed propaganda piece where he states he is not reporting historical events objectively. How can any rational thinking person then consider it authoritative?
As far as people laughing at you, what do you expect? Have you looked at yourselves? Do you really think anyone is going to take a band of physically dirty, obscenity shouting people carrying signs with imbecilic slogans seriously?
If you really want to make a change, and I agree one is needed, understand your audience. You will never suceed by trying to frighten them with your antics or impress them with your "revolution in the streets", you have to wind them to your side with logic ay the grassroots. It's a long process but the only one that works.
A reality check the motorcade sped up because they didn't have time for you. It happened the same way four years ago when you were all suckered into Freedom Square. I hope you realize that was a setup. I was there and saw it go down and could not believe how gulible the protesters were. In any case, if one of you had made it through the line and onto the motorcade route a sniper would have taken you out and at least three limos and one surburban would have rolled over you before anyone came up to see if there was anything left. Also keep in mind, when that was all over and done, millions of people would see it on live TV and say, "what an idiot, got what he/she deserved". That's real life.

Even Patrick Buchanan asks, where in the Us Constitution does it say the President can wage war to 'spread democracy' in countries on the other side of the world.

Most Bush/war supporters just want gas for their SUV's and don't care if troops or Iraqi's die in the process.

MP# is 43 seconds of BIG LIES to remind us the fear mongering fabrications and fiction that started this fiasco of torture, illegal war, and mass murder.

These young people were there to let their voices be heard, not to do violence. The action taken against them shows how fast our Nation's freedom is being destroyed. Oh, that we would have MANY with so much courage! Yes, there WAS glee on the faces of those using the pepper spray guns. Reminds me of Hitler. And yes, I was alive to see HIS actions too.

Sorry about hitting you in the face with pepper spray. I was aiming for your balls. Next time, please bring your balls.

I was about 20 feet from this activity. It seemed to me that the most intense moments of pepper spraying were designed to disperse the crowd when Bush drove past. That way the loud booing of the crowd would be as quiet as possible. A crowd suppression technique.

I would like to say that I see some new friends in the pictures. In the top shot, there is a guy directly to the left of the dude in the brown wool hat, wearing a black hat with a little visor. This guy was seen later that day doing a perfect goose step and nazi salute, at the head of a phalanx of riot cops marching up 14th towards the intersection. Totally hilarious. What was even funnier was that he stopped right at the time about three of us were trying to get our cameras out. We told him not to stop because the cameras weren't ready, so he started up again with his buddy. That was great... and a message those riot cop nazis need to see.

It was a good feeling to see so many good people sticking their necks out to speak the truth. Good people with strong hearts. I'm greatly encouraged by the protests, and I know many others are as well.

-M

i am ready for your buddy eric. he talks big shit for a sucker that is across the sea supposedly.

rightwinger

These pics are priceless !! What's up with the guy in the last pic ?? Did he get sprayed or is that a pic from the after party.. (Slurp)

Now all the Liberals repeat after me.. Civil Disobedience = Pepper Spray !!

These pics are priceless !! What's up with the guy in the last pic ?? Did he get sprayed or is that a pic from the after party.. (Slurp)

Now all the Liberals repeat after me.. Civil Disobedience = Pepper Spray !!

These pics are priceless

Now all the Liberals repeat after me.. Civil Disobedience = Pepper Spray !!

well i am a proud father of my daughter for protesting what she believes in .
i was so mad when i seen her pictures being sprayed .
but this makes us stronger.it ism so sad
to see the land of freedom becoming worse than russia what is happinning to us with this idiotic leader ship, may god have mercy on our sole and what is gonna happend to us in the next 4 years

I was there, what you failed to say was of the persons throwing liguid(turned out to be bleach ) on the cops. Also you failed to mention the persons spitting on the cops. But after reading the clearly(yea right)unbaised artical, I can see the why.

you all are living in a F*#@king deluded fantasy, yes you have the right to protest but that means protesting non violently, you idiots talk of peace and yet you are the ones one broke down the barricade. they are there for a reason, i am a DC cop so i know this. granted i don't agree with a lot of bushes policies or a lot of how some cops treat people, but i do know for a fact that your peaceful demonstration put 8 police officers in the hospital, your peaceful mob decided to bring sticks to the parade and attack officers without gear on. you are lucky you didn't attack me because i would have shot your A$$ and i would have been justified. yes individual people are smart but mobs and crowds as a whole are stupid, one collective mind is a dangerous thing, thats why those barricades are in place

does anyone know where to find other pictures of the bloc? there was this one guy holding a sign behing cops that read 'im with stupid' and im trying to find that picture. any help would be appreciated.

does anyone know where to find other pictures of the bloc? there was this one guy holding a sign behing cops that read 'im with stupid' and im trying to find that picture. any help would be appreciated.

So much for freedom of speech. Unfortunately this is just the tip of one incredibly huge iceberg. We have to do more than just continue to re-arrange the deck chairs on the Titanic. All that is needed for evil to flourish is for good people to stand by and do nothing.

Maybe spraying the Leftist maggots with water woulda been far worse, if there's one thing an America hating scumbag hates, it's Water and Soap!
About the people in the windows, Im sure theyre no richer than the Limosine Liberals in Boston, New York, or L.A.! Their apartments and condos probably have a nice view as well! They're just a small sample of the real Americans that voted for America, not against it. You cocksucker Leftists are just sore you lost. Get used to it, the more you keep pushing that tired Communist, Pro-Muslim Terrorist Bullshit, the more elections your sides gonna lose!
If I were running the police, I woulda used live ammunition against the fuckers!
Hey capedmaskedandarmed.com.: if you can find more pictures of your side getting your asses whupped, please put them on! I and 60, 000,000 real Americans are waiting to see them!
DEATH to The LEFT! DEATH to QUEERS!
4 More years-keep crying yer pussy tears!
The 1-JL

I love the smell of OC in the morning! These pictures are almost as motivating as seeing communists being shot! I especially like the look of suffering on ther poor leftist in the last photo! Take it leftie bitches!

Did the guy in the last pic actually get sprayed, or did the guy he was blowing spunk in his eyes. From the resolution, it is hard to tell if this is after effect of pepper spray, or a frame from a left-wing bukakke flick....

Those are funny pictures!!

I heart police trolls! Looks like the "fuck with Indymedia" department at the MPDC has found this post, and they are being just eloquent and empathetic as ever.

Sticks and stones fellas, try reading some Martin Luther King Jr. once in a while. Might I recommend his speech on the Vietnam war where he called America “the greatest portrayer of violence in the world”, there’s a reason you don’t hear that one on the radio every year, its radical as hell. Or try his letter from the Birmingham jail…now there’s a cat that know what it was like to get the end of your police baton…to bad you were not around to pepper spray him…because, with out a doubt, he would have been out there on Saturday resisting the great murderous injustice that is America today. He would have been out there fighting for those that are being massacred and driven to starvation all around the world in our name for profit and empire.

The police brutality that day was incredible. The fact that the police peppersprayed everyone wasnt enough they had to charge us with night sticks and attack us for no reason is unexplainable. So with the acts of the DC police department it shows that we live in a police state and are country is led by a nazi sympathist. So my question is, when will the revolution come and the tyrant be over thrown.

I was standing right there in the crowd as the police were spraying the protesters and seemed to be enjoying it. It was the callous nature of the police that truly appalled me, they seemed to be spraying with concentrated effort at people who were not threatening or rushing the fence. I personally know of at least 10 people who were at the time blinded by the concentrated and at minimum 10-15 second spraying directly in the face of people who excersizing their constitutional right of dissent. Is this the face of the new and improved "king george?" Long live the people and the revolution

one of the protestors was a friend of mine who was taken by the undercover cops she had done nothing wrong and was brutily assulted to the point of concussion and when resisting bein kicked and punched she was only attacked by more cops

I heart police trolls! Looks like the "fuck with Indymedia" department at the MPDC has found this post, and they are being just eloquent and empathetic as ever.

Sticks and stones fellas, try reading some Martin Luther King Jr. once in a while. Might I recommend his speech on the Vietnam war where he called America “the greatest portrayer of violence in the world”, there’s a reason you don’t hear that one on the radio every year, its radical as hell. Or try his letter from the Birmingham jail…now there’s a cat that know what it was like to get the end of your police baton…to bad you were not around to pepper spray him…because, with out a doubt, he would have been out there on Saturday resisting the great murderous injustice that is America today. He would have been out there fighting for those that are being massacred and driven to starvation all around the world in our name for profit and empire.

What do you mean the police violence. I was there and saw the protesters pulling down the barricade. When you try to fight the police, be prepared the police will fight back. duh!

....fences dont feel. Cops attacking people are doing it to maintain social order and deny people with legit greviances from being anywhere near our glorious comrade leader bush.

They arent responding to violence they are the monopoply of violence they are just performing their duty.
No excuse for their actions , just doing what pawns do.

Of course the cops will attack us . Of course it will be callled outrageous and shamed by all sane and good people. Too bad the vast majority wont see it. Buried in the memory hole. Love the bread n circus , watch only what our corporate gods tell us to.

Of course the proto-fascists will revel in the violence as they allways do. Your times will come to die. Then you can revel and see how beautiful the violence is.


The day will come when capitalism no longer works and the state can do nothing to prevent the coming revolution towards a global society of equality.

Fight on comrades, we will acheive the dream.

From the obscene violence loving responses of the pro-W-ar trolls one can see why America does not have the human material to 'rule' the world. We don't have the money either, which should become more evident over the next four years.

The multi-hundred $billion disaster in Iraq will end with the US getting booted out of Iraq onto its pepper and bullet spraying, torturing mass murdering unarmored mega-$trillion indebted ass.

The Bush backers will also be stuck with the trillions of dollars of debt.

The legacy of unprovoked aggression and murder and racist American 'W'ar supporters coming out of the woodwork like KKK cross burners or lynch mobs in Georgia, has been witnessed by a wired world and the lesson will not soon be forgotten.

Americans with a conscience, like these protestors, are all that is left of what is decent in the American people.

I saw all of you. I was with you. We really showed them, huh, well, we're all over the news. And I just wanted to say, one day. And soon. It will reign.

I wish some billy clubs would have made an appearance. Since they couldn't see they would have been excellent targets.

I was there. I saw the anguish, the passion...the violence. true there were a few throwing snowballs and plants at cops, but it was only a few in the back, they sprayed those of us standing near the front....doing nothing illegal. i watched as one man had the courage to kneel 3 feet from the fence in a praying position, often with a peace sign held, while multiple riot cops pepper sprayed his entire body. he just sat. eventually many of us joined him, many of us were sprayed. we had a reight to be on that side of the fence. hell, we had a right to be on the OTHER side of the fence. it was excessive force period. and it wouldn't have been necessary had they let us in to the parade route as they were supposed to.

America, love it or leave it. Stop your bitching, always crying that cops are so evil, when was the last time you filled out an application for employment with you local police dept.? Everyone wants to bitch, moan, and cry, but none of you could fill the boots of an officer for even one day, let alone get hired.

Do you think that the police sprayed these people for no reason? Did that portion of the fence fall on its own? No, not at all. The so called freedon fighters AKA: anarchists, made futile attempt to storm a civilized and planned activity. These idiots could not work within the established guidelines of the law, so what do they do? They resort to barbaric actions that resulted in them getting repulsed by the police using chemical agents. I come from a country where we can not express our visions and our voices can not be heard. To see the chance at having the people in authority listening to our point of view being heard and then wasted like this is very saddening. I was there to stand by your side and demonstate, but never again. The Anarchist acted like ignorant animals with no political agenda at all. I will find another avenue to express myself in the future. You Anarchists are an embarassment to true freedom fighters around the world. You should go back to your parent's upper middle class homes and leave the fighting to us. You disgust us all!

get back on you meds. you're talking t o yourself again.

Observe the oppressive nature of the state and its armed thuggery. The apologists for these fascists are hyprocrites. They lie like they breath.

As they lie about this, they lie about Castro. Who, incidentally, is a pussy cat compared to Bush.

your broke the fence down and tried to enter a secure area. those who were sprayed deserved it. obey the law!!!

your broke the fence down and tried to enter a secure area. those who were sprayed deserved it. obey the law!!!

"Obey the law."

Observe the Nazilike attitude of the mindless automoton who blindly mouths the words "freedom" and "liberty" while violently suppressing them.

______________

Obey (the Law) + We are the Law= Obey The Law (Obey Us)!

We will resist!

I must say that I am both distressed and surprised at what I have seen in these photographs. I cannot believe that the police were using pepper spray on the protesters !!! Pepper is just so 80's, why aren't they using something more with the times such as a nice cinamon spray, or perhaps a pleasant fusion like curry and lemongrass spray ? I once bought a pepper scented shower gel from Molten Browne and it really dried my skin out, so I can immagine the adverse effects on the poor peoples faces. I say we lobby police departments across the country to use more skinfriendly sprays in the future.

I can understand the police's reasoning for using the pepper spray, but that's exactly what we get when we challenge the system-system fights back. That's what happened to Bobby Kennedy.

You always whine when you loose. You loose a lot. People are really so tired of your endless bitching when your "protests" come to nothing, as they always do. "Mass" protests ending in the usual "direct action" crap that just enrages ordinary people who actually have to deal with the results or your action. Juvenile temper tantrums are not the way to win hearts and minds. Older generations realized this, but you do not. Until you grow up, and deal with politics like adults, you will continue to loose.

If you broke my fence - symbolically or otherwise - i would shoot you with more than pepper spray.

The Fascist Scum!

What is all this whining about freedoms being trampled? Your freedoms do not include the freedom to vandalize a fence. The protestors should have been arrested, not just sprayed.

To the cop trolls:

You will hurt me,but more will come.

Commisar Comrade Bush's hired guns were only doing their jobs. Perhaps they thought you were Fascists trying to expose the communist regime for what it is-decadent, corrupt and full of lies. But alas, you were only playing your part as phony protesters not really angry about a zionist, communist puppet in office. If Kerry had been elected, would you have pretended to have been so angry? Of course not, he was an open communist, while Bush at least tries to hide his hammer and sickle tattoo from the masses of asses. Communist slime, it is your time!!!

To that guy ^^^

I think you have your isims confused. On geeduhbya's extreem right are fascists. They are the acme of merger between corporation and state.

Eric "festo" Bochene (eric (at) xomoxnyc.com) wrote on 22 Jan 2005:

"I high powered Marine sniper rifle would serve a nice purpose and alleviate the world of those white fucking pigs looking out the window Johnny's pictures."

"listen up hard chargin devil dogs... start killing"..."rich people"..."it would be a hell of a lot more fun than defencless Iraqi women and children.... just admit it!"

How about we start killing commie maggots like you?

Remember one thing; we're the ones with tens of thousands of dollars worth of sniper rifles, "assault weapons", tactical shotguns, and the best sidearms money can buy.

Bring it on, bitch.

Why don't you go march through the streets in Iraq and see what happens to you. You will be begging for pepper spray by the end of the day.

yeah in Iraq we'd get killed by US troops, just a few more to add to the 100,000+ that have already been murdered by the military in the name of bringing "Freedom and Democracy". GO USA!

Nobody broke through but they all wanted to. Nobody broke through because that pepper spray takes care of your vision quickly. And a wood shampoo would take care of everything else.

This protest was the best thing I have done in my life. Thank you for all who attened. Lets organize and run it through again anarchists!

I want to thank the photographer for these great photos I saved and printed them out for my scrap book. I got tripple over time pay and a six course catered dinner. and the best part of the day was getting to use the new awesome powerful chemical cannon it was fun spraying all the low life thugs with it and watching them fall to the ground in pain crying and foaming at the mouth. I'm already looking forward to the next event in D.C. where I am sure I will get to use it again. but next time I'm adding a little boost to the cannon a really great chemical called acid with a hint of bleach added to the already powerful chemical pepper mace. It's so powerful and skin disfiguring its amazing!
so come on back I'm looking forward to meeting you all.

Why don't you just break into a home and violate someone. Not.

Is it ok to use bleach to clean the bathroom?

Just wanted to thank all the protesters that came out last week, you guys are great. Every time you guys show up it's just more overtime for us. It's kinda funny when you think about it. You guys protest and then we make a boatload of money in overtime not to mention the workout we get locking you up. It's a win win scenario (for us anyway). So you anarchists hurry back because I need a new set of rims and tires for my 2005 Escalade (paid for by IMF demonstrations). Is this a great country or what? We make money off the people that hate us so.

Thanks to the photographer for these really great shots! I got tripple overtime pay and a six course catered dinner. the best part being able to use the high powered chemical cannon on the low life thugs it was fun blasting everyone in the face and seeing them buckle to theyre knees and cry.
see you all next time!

Sure anytime, i have a few more you should add to your scrap book as well, they would look very nice placed next to all us "anarchist protestes" maybe with the caption "WHY THEY FIGHT".

capedmaskedandarmed.com/photo/garbagering/index.html

Enjoy!

seeing those fences made me think of Russia during the 70's. What a shame for our country!

look how effective this is with pictures to the public eye and how many comments/viewers have accumulated as opposed to text alone, i, myself included, however in retort.

Response to some of the inane babbling from the rightwing trolls:

“but i do know for a fact that your peaceful demonstration put 8 police officers in the hospital”
-- If that’s anywhere near true, then provide evidence please, because as of about 1:30am on Jan20/Jan 21, we had official reports of only two injured officers, and one of them was not hospitalized. I’ve seen nothing to corroborate these claims of larger numbers of police injuries, and in fact the number keeps increasing every time someone pretending to be a cop decides to post an assertion about the number of police injuries. Without evidence, I see no reason at all to believe these ever-increasing numbers or for that matter that those making the claims are actually even cops -- we get lots of wanna-be cops who post here all the time. Besides, it might be noted that when a police-riot takes place and the cops violently attack innocent people, as in the many cases on Jan20, then on occasion some of the people the cops are illegally assaulting so brutally might try to defend themselves. If a cop is injured while illegally assaulting an innocent person, blasting them in the face with pepper spray (which caused some people to have breathing problems bad enough that the cops sent for ambulances) and shooting them with projectiles and swinging clubs and tear-gassing people, then don’t expect too much sympathy. The police actions were illegal, immoral, inexcusable examples of typical thug-like brutality directed against protestors based on only one “provocation” -- the expression of dissent, period.

“yes individual people are smart but mobs and crowds as a whole are stupid”
-- This is apparently especially true when the mob has badges and guns.

“none of you could fill the boots of an officer for even one day”
-- Which we take as a compliment, thank you. So we aren’t fascists, we don’t get off on acting like bullies who are always out to prove something, we don’t enjoy hurting innocent people, we aren’t mindless robots who follow any order regardless of how inhumane -- yes, exactly. And your point is…?

I also like how the cops chose to drive over the top of those coffins, the ones representing dead troops, the ones draped in flags. Yep, the police just rolled right over the top of some of them, flags and all, smashing them to bits. Then there was that coffin set on fire after the cops intentionally doused it in pepper-spray. Regardless of whatever I or other activists may think of the coffins-for-troops/flags aspect of the protest, one must admit that photos and film of cops driving over the tops of those coffins and setting one on fire is a helluva image, and rest assured that these images are going to be plastered all over the internet. So thanks in advance for providing such a wonderful photo-op, officers.

And it’s a bit humorous to hear all the macho jabbering and insults. I hear lots of name-calling like “cowards” etc, and this from people who dress up like Darth Vader, need a gun to feel powerful, stand behind giant fences and run around in suped-up vehicles/cycles, carry shields, need gas and giant hoses filled with pepper-spray, all to feel safe enough to confront dissidents. Sorry, but it looks silly calling someone a “coward” who is STILL willing to show up despite your major hardware and armor. And by the way, you also sound like some immature teenage boys who constantly need to prove how tough they are to impress their friends. Maybe you should try another route in these discussions -- like being rational, trying to make an intelligent point, something like that.

The commentary here, while probably mostly from wanna-be cops playing “dress-up” online, is still an accurate depiction of the overall views usually expressed by agents of the state. They wish they could get away with worse treatment, they wish there were no restrictions on their behavior so they could live-out their fullest fantasies of abuse and power. They will commit exactly as much illicit brutality and fascist methodology as they can get away with, and lately they get away with more and more. They have no sense of basic decency with regard to their work, nor any sense whatsoever of appropriate responses -- if they could, they would simply shoot everyone and anyone for whatever offense they feel like. They enjoy it, they get off on it, and right now it’s the leftists and protestors they are obsessed with, but their fantasies would still be taken out on someone else if/when protestors are not around to bear the brunt of it. Hence constant brutality against the poor and minorities, hence constant shootings and beatings of unarmed people, often in the back. Hence the images in the pictures on this website. Your every action and every word only serves to radicalize more of us and make us that much more determined. You prove us right every time you set foot on the streets or open your mouths.

Drew Poe

another long winded commentary that says absolutely nothing. you say the same mundane rhetoric in every thread.

it was 3 officers, mr indy g-d drew poe...2 females & 1 male. none were hospitalized for more than treatment for their injuries.

mr indy g-d drew poe... you talk all this garbage about being respectful, & responding intelligently with comments empty of slanderous, name calling prose, yet you, yourself, continue to name call in every comment not directed to the left. take your own advice.

btw...were you even out there or were you holed up on champlain st nw?

"Law enforcement organizations reported that 154 police officers were killed in the line of duty in 2004. About half of the deaths were traffic-related accidents while nearly one-third resulted from shootings. Craig W. Floyd, chairman of the National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, stated that better driver training, safer automobiles, the increased use of bullet-resistant vests and less-lethal weapons are just a few of the measures that must be taken to reduce the number of officer deaths in the line of duty. While the 154 deaths is a 6% increase from 2003, the number of officer deaths in the line of duty from 1995-2000 averaged 159 deaths yearly."

Damn...whole lotta bacon there....I'd hate to be a cop.

To Drew Poe:

That is a whole lot of mindless rambling for one individual. I see that in the begining of your disertation you had a thought but you were so consumed by your passion for idiocy that you lost your train of thought. A word of advice, stay away from the big words all you do is embarass yourself and your cause. Also please advise your friends to have a demonstration soon, we as officers need the extra money you guys generate for us, (tahnks by the way). Please send in another entry my friends and I enjoy the hell out of reading the writtings that you and your buddies submit, they are priceless. 3D pig and I will patiently await your next entry, as you are better that cable.

Look at me everybody, I protest, I dress in black, I wear a mask, I have no cause. I need attention because my mommy didn't breast feed me. I have no friends, I was in the high school band and I sucked. I stay at home because no one calls me to go out. The only friends I have wear masks so I don't know who they are. I am lonely, I have no human contact (thank God for the computer). I destroy things because I have nothing of my own.

I am the modern day anarchist.

Please shoot me!

Drew Poe,

Stop speaking for us, you make their argument better! To be honest I don't want you as a represenative for our cause, you make us look like a bunch of idiots.

Thanks

L.V

Ps. I mean it!

Hey evrybody I'm Drew Poe and I think I know everything because I'm an arrogant uneducated ass. No really my parents re-enforced my self confidence with their poor parenting skills and here I am today. Thanks dad thanks mom, you guys are the best. I have to go now because I have a mindless cause to pursue or go to the bathroom, it's all the same to me. Am I cute or what? Buy guys. Oh I almost forgot , fight the power!

Video
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Nice comment Drew, you can tell how well you put your points from the concerted efforts of the trolls that followed. Have these people ever seen Star Wars? Presumably they cheers on the stormtroopers as they fry Ewoks?! Empire and resistance, nothing else matters at the moment...solidarity from the UK

the above posts are exactly why these protests never ammount to anything - no organization. Some of you are for abortion rights, some for gay rights, some to stop logging, some for legalizing weed, some for peace, some for anarchy - and you're all yelling at the same time. The rest of America saw the pictures of you getting arrested, but they don't have a clue what your cause was. You can't do anything meaningful because you hate eachother as much as you hate the Bush administration. Your picket signs and cardboard coffins will never get you anywhere. Get a clue, get an education, and get organized or you will never be taken seriously.

'T'- you say our protests never amount to anything. you obviously are not well educated on the history of activism and the effect it does have. each protest is a small dent in the enemies face, and after awhile those dents become a hole. the disorganization you speak of is clearly one the corporate media has portrayed to you, and you, ever so feebly, have eaten up these images. when is the last time the media has portrayed us as mildly intelligent and completely successful after one protest? what did you expect to see? get a mind of your own. the hardest thing in our lives is to not believe what is easiest to believe. do some research, get the facts, and maybe your paradigm will open a bit more. and your statement that we need to get an education just clearly defines the type of prejudice and fascism that we are, and will continue, to fight for. oh, and the next time you want your views taken even mildy serious, why dont you leave a name and e-mail?
ps. does anyone have pics/vid of the protest in columbia heights/dupont the night of j20?

Comrades, comrades, what is ze matter? Ve usually shoot people that do zeze teerible tings like you deed but we weel let it go dis time ok comrade? Joseph Stalin

Good of you communists to go out on a freezing day, destroy the property of rich, corporate fat capilatists who import nonwhite labor like crazy and destroy the White working class, get sprayed in the face with mace and then after all that (my, by then you had a full day) get arrested!!! So that's what I have been doing wrong all these years, sitting back and watching you fuckups have all the fun. NOT Remember, SIX BILLION DEAD. We won't rest until then. Hail the FIFTH REICH!!! 14 18 38 88

LOL!!! Hey, whoever that was getting sprayed by a nigger woman cop, how does that feel, Whitey?

Heil Hitler

Good. You filthy abortion loving commie libs deserve all the pepper Mexico can produce!

Good. You filthy abortion loving commie libs deserve all the pepper Mexico can produce!

it doesnt matter what fucking president it was. all government is supported through violence, it is not bush, it is not kerry, this is fascism and this is real. when people are being violated for dissent we live under a dictatorship. this is taxation without representation, and we are being repressed things have not changed for the last three hundred years. we must rise up and over throw all repression. against life. we are the weeds breaking through the side walk and we are stonger than the bricks that they throw.
wilderness, anarchy
nasdaq

And as I said, every time you open your mouths, you make our points for us.

I see nothing but a tiny group of angry white guys who wish they were cops or are cops, with nothing to say worth hearing. Of course, no comments about illegal police brutality -- there's a nice irony to the term "riot police" that I doubt you are capable of recognizing.

Your comments amount to "Get a life, you guys are a joke." That's it? You sit in front of your screen for hours waiting for some attention, and that's the best you can think of (I use the term "think" loosely, of course) to say? I make plenty of points, I just know better than to expect YOU to grasp them...or actually respond to them, by the way.

So let's see...we confirmed two police injuries requiring treatment, another "look I'm a cop I swear" poster here asserts there were eight, and 3D claims it was three. So if we are to even believe 3D knows what he's talking about (a big assumption, but it would be nice for a change if he really did) IMC had a more accurate number than a supposed cop. Not at all surprising.

Try hard to understand this: you all just say the same inane things -- yes, you hate IMC and you like to abuse your power, yes yes we all know that. Come up with something else to say for a change, and maybe include something worth listening to next time. You get responded to exactly to the extent you deserve -- and lacking any merit in any single thing you ever say, you deserve little more than a nice scolding for looking foolish. See, I don't think I'm the "smartest person in the room" or that I "know everything" -- just that I know more than YOU, and that isn't actually saying that much, so I don't have a big ego about being smarter than the likes of you. It's hardly a "bragging point".

To those who claim to be activists who don't like what I have to say, well maybe you aren't among those who get brutalized by police when you voice your dissent. When you aren't among those who actually face the oppression of state thugs, then sure you'd prefer nobody bring it up. Maybe, no PROBABLY that comment above was posted by one of the two or three little guys posting most of the rubbish here as "cops", but in fact some progressive-liberals do indeed resent it if someone actually takes the "fascism" rhetoric seriously and talks about it as it applies to those responsible for carrying out fascism in our streets. It's called "believing what you actually say", taking it seriously. If all you are doing is spouting off "fascism, fascism", but you don't internalize it and believe yourself, then just stop saying it. At least then, when you get bent out of shape about me or someone else talking about the police acting as the enforcers of that fascism, you won't be so hypocritical. You'll be wrong, but at least consistently so.

Drew Poe

i was pepper-sprayed because i was in the wrong place at the wrong time. i have mixed feelings about the incident. one on hand, it was wrong for protesters to kick down the baracade seperating the protesters from the parade. but on the other hand, i think the pigs overreacted - no one made any attempt to enter the parade's zone. in all, i felt a kinship w/ black people in the 40's and 50's. the way they opened fire with the pepper spray sadly resembled the water hoses used to keep blacks in line during protests back in the day.

I was in DC at the time but not near this incident. I'd like you to know that I am 100% against Bush but I'm trying to look at the situation on neutral grounds.

"Police responded by bombarding the crowd with streams of pepper spray (aiming for their faces)."
Spraying it at their feet wouldn't do much good.

" It's a shame when your right of freedom of speech-HURTS!!!!"
Vandalizm isn't protected under the first amendment.

"start killing cops, rich people and politicians"
I'm just curious as to who you would call if you were raped, if your car was stolen, or if your family was murdered. Just because someone is succesfull doesn't mean they are a bad person.

"his motorcade speeds up as they drive by this scene"
Would you spend time celebrating in front of people that don't like you.

"Reminds me of Hitler."
Don't compare the usage of pepper-spray to genocide.

"I was there, what you failed to say was of the persons throwing liguid(turned out to be bleach ) on the cops. Also you failed to mention the persons spitting on the cops. But after reading the clearly(yea right)unbaised artical, I can see the why."
If this is true, why wasn't it mentioned?

"Pro-Muslim Terrorist Bullshit"
What the hell is that supposed to mean?

"DEATH to The LEFT! DEATH to QUEERS!"
If there is one thing I can't stand it's bigots. It's people like you that are hurting America.

" "Obey the law."

Observe the Nazilike attitude of the mindless automoton"
Do you think murder should be legal? What about rape? Some laws are retarded, I'll grant you that, but the majority of them aren't.

"Which we take as a compliment, thank you. So we aren’t fascists, we don’t get off on acting like bullies who are always out to prove something, we don’t enjoy hurting innocent people, we aren’t mindless robots who follow any order regardless of how inhumane -- yes, exactly. And your point is…?"
What would happen if every police officer suddenly disappeared? Would the world suddenly become peaceful? I doubt it. Where would we be without order; disorder maybe? I just don't understand why some of you think that there should be no police. It doesn't make any sense.

"you say our protests never amount to anything. you obviously are not well educated on the history of activism and the effect it does have."
If I were watching at home I wouldn't know what your cause was. I'd have to agree with the other guy and say that more organization is needed. I also think you are taking his words out of context and applying them to things such as the civil rights movement.

To respond to John’s comments (his first, my responses follow):

John:
“I was in DC at the time but not near this incident. I'd like you to know that I am 100% against Bush but I'm trying to look at the situation on neutral grounds.”

Me:
In other words, it’s immoral and illegal and brutal but hey, you prefer to be “objective” about immorality and illegality and brutality? This is the typical, cowardly non-position on an issue to be expected from the so-called “intellectual liberal-progressives” who see themselves as some sort of calm, “father-knows-best” group who need to guide the rest of us. It’s patronizing, and it tends to be a bit ridiculous as well -- like “it’s terrible but I’m reserving judgement” mentality (or non-mentality) espoused above.

John:
"Police responded by bombarding the crowd with streams of pepper spray (aiming for their faces)."
Spraying it at their feet wouldn't do much good.

Me: Well, two problems here: first, you don’t know what you’re talking about, obviously, since pepper-spray creates a mist in the air and the fumes are also harmful and cause damage. You don’t at all have to get it right in the face for it to be effective. Ever been in a small enclosed area where pepper-spray is being used? Even on the other side of a room, it eventually reaches you and can choke you. And that’s when it’s sprayed from a can; spray it in amounts measuring in the GALLONS, out of HOSES, and the impact can be even worse. So sorry, John, but NO, you are totally ignorant of the facts here -- spraying it directly into the faces out of a powerfully blasting hose is NOT the only way for it to “do much good”. Besides that, it is also telling that what you have to say on the entire matter of cops blasting crowds in the face with pepper-spray from a high-pressure hose is merely to make a pathetic attempt at humor. That’s it, that’s the only comment about the subject that you have to make? Oh, how very “progressive” of you, John.

John:
" It's a shame when your right of freedom of speech-HURTS!!!!"
Vandalizm isn't protected under the first amendment.

Oh, certainly John! Everyone out protesting on Jan20 was a vile little vandal. I am utterly sick of seeing this inane blithering from progressive mouth-pieces. You go to greater lengths to portray every protester as “violent” than the government or the rightwing does, which is why you have convinced many of us that “progressives” like yourself pose as much a danger to our movement as the right does. You seem willing to do and say anything, however false and with malicious intent, to slander/libel dissenters and activists. You may deny that you are equating all protesters with vandals, but such a denial would be nothing but a complete lie -- not unexpected from you, of course. Someone writes a comment about exercising freedom of speech being painful due to police brutality, and you respond with a blanket comment insinuating that whatever “freedom of speech” they are referring to was actually criminal property damage -- a complete lie. People all over the place on Jan20 were subjected to pepper-spraying, beatings, tear-gassing, etc despite having done nothing more than exercise their freedom of speech -- you know, John, that thing that IS in the First Amendment. Darby Hickey, one of the DC Radio Co-Op reporters who did some extensive and excellent field reporting on Jan20 was assaulted not once but TWICE, the first time with pepper-spray that was still effecting her hours later. So save your worthless tripe about protesters being “vandals”, because we’ve seen and read enough of the facts from the inauguration to know the truth even if you seem incapable of an honest admission of those truths.

John:
"start killing cops, rich people and politicians"
I'm just curious as to who you would call if you were raped, if your car was stolen, or if your family was murdered. Just because someone is succesfull doesn't mean they are a bad person.

Me:
First, posting any comments like that on an open public website is simply stupid and irresponsible. Whatever one feels about such matters, it is the height of ignorance and lack of concern for other protesters to make these types of comments on this site, and this fact makes me automatically suspicious that actually the remark was posted by a rightwing troll or a cop. But to address John’s remarks, “who would you call” is only a question for good little progressive-liberals who see nothing wrong with depending on agents of the state to protect them and make them feel safe, to punish and abuse those who you feel threatened by. And as those familiar with history know, this typical thinking among “middle-class” and upper-classes is what leads to reactionary support for police abusing “radicals” who you feel threatened by. At the end of the day, you identify more with the state than the most oppressed elements of this nation and world, and you will side with them in a moment of “crisis” when oppressed people lash out and rise up to demand justice. Many of us on the left have no intention of “calling” any agents of the state for any reason, precisely because we DON’T identify with the state or its police/military agents. As for being rich, that doesn’t mean you are “successful”, which is a judgment call depending on your own definition of “success” -- and it is quite obvious what YOUR definition is. At the end of the day, the only way we can have rich people is if we have poor people; for one person to live in a mansion requires, REQUIRES, that a lot of others live on the street, for one person to eat three times what they need requires many others to starve, for one person to sleep in a warm bed with satin sheets requires others to freeze to death outside. Wealth demands suffering, period. Whether you like it or not, whether you think of yourself as a “good” or “bad” person, when you defend such a system of wealth and make excuses for it, you are defending enforced suffering and death and misery, and it can ONLY survive so long as YOU and others are willing to defend it. It relies on your help, which you give so willingly.

John:
"his motorcade speeds up as they drive by this scene"
Would you spend time celebrating in front of people that don't like you.

Me:
Not much to say here, except that there was more reason for Bush speeding past the protesters than his desire not to celebrate in front of them. The cameras were capturing those images, for one thing; his anger/disgust was another.

John:
"Reminds me of Hitler."
Don't compare the usage of pepper-spray to genocide.

Me:
Ah, now comes what is far too often at the heart of much of your espousal of “disapproval” of the left: the issue of fascism, and the left’s recognition of the U.S. as fascist. First of all, there is more than just the use of pepper-spray at the overall heart of the comparison. Second, no matter how much you rant and rave about it, YOU are not granted sole power to determine when others are facing fascism or not. YOU don’t get to twist definitions so that only your own myopic point of view is the lone “legitimate” determining factor in these matters, and you need to learn that lesson. Third, fascism in general and even in Nazi Germany was not solely defined by genocide; to be sure, the Holocaust represented a massive, vile aspect of Hitler’s Germany, but Hitler actually did a few other things during his reign. Likewise, under your personal demand about how we define “fascism”, I guess Franco wasn’t a fascist, right? The issue is brutal suppression of dissent within an overall context that encompasses many other elements and policies that combine into a recognizable pattern that can be compared to the elements that define fascism, and using THIS model of analysis (based on rational, intelligent consideration of facts and an honest assessment of fascism and U.S. policy today) as opposed to your own model, the reality of U.S. fascism becomes very apparent. The police are only one aspect of this total model, their methods and the policies that give rise to them are but one element. So instead of resorting to your tired old simplistic views of the world, try broadening your analysis and doing research to gain a real understanding of these matters, so that your own comments can eventual reflect an intelligent, studied analysis.

John:
"I was there, what you failed to say was of the persons throwing liguid(turned out to be bleach ) on the cops. Also you failed to mention the persons spitting on the cops. But after reading the clearly(yea right)unbaised artical, I can see the why."
If this is true, why wasn't it mentioned?

Me:
Well, for one thing “if this is true” is an important part of your question. I’ve so far seen nothing to substantiate the claims, and in fact the assertions by rightwing trolls and cops (also rightwing trolls, incidentally) since Jan20 have included a parade of false assertions and disinformation shown to be totally false. Claims about “8 police” being hospitalized for injuries, for example; claims about protesters assaulting rig wingers (based on a report in the Washington Post) which are totally at-odds with eyewitness accounts and in fact are not even backed up by police assertions about the incident; and so on. These are typical methods of disinformation, spreading false claims and suddenly adding “details” (“turned out to be bleach”) later on, etc. There are also numerous examples of police undercover agents acting as “provocateurs” (such as in NY and Miami, and we have also seen photos from the inaugural of undercovers dressed as protesters in the midst of some of the scenes of conflicts). All of this suggests that, since the above claims are not substantiated at all, there is no reason to take them at face-value. So, to you John, I’d say maybe you ought to occasionally show the same level of skepticism for claims by cops and rightwing trolls that you show for the left. I don’t actually EXPECT you to do so, of course, but it’d be nice for a change and might start to add a bit of an element of merit to some of what you spew around here.

John:
"Pro-Muslim Terrorist Bullshit"
What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Me:
Oh, how little you always have to say about very clear hate-speech directed at Muslims and Arabs. Not even an actual condemnation here, just a question. You always reserve any lengthy response for the left, to denounce protesters and activists, and generally act unconcerned about hatred on the right unless it’s directed at you. Only on occasion do you feel compelled to offer some empty rhetoric denouncing rightwing hate-speech, “empty” because the bulk of what you ever say and do shows that your “denouncing” of the right is only to prop-up your assertion that you are “progressive” and “reasonable”. For example…

John:
"DEATH to The LEFT! DEATH to QUEERS!"
If there is one thing I can't stand it's bigots. It's people like you that are hurting America.

Me:
There it is, a few words about how you are so against bigotry, with a little patriotism tossed in for good measure lest your denouncement of rightwing hate-speech be mistaken as “too close” to certain leftist thought. No, no, John just has to be sure his pseudo-progressive comment not get him into TOO much trouble, right?

John:
" ‘Obey the law.’
Observe the Nazilike attitude of the mindless automoton"
Do you think murder should be legal? What about rape? Some laws are retarded, I'll grant you that, but the majority of them aren't.

Me:
This is just so lame, John. So if someone says “The police should not brutalize innocent people”, your response is “Oh yeah, so you want legalized murder?” That breaks so many of the most basic rules of legitimate debate and logical syllogisms, it’s pathetic. Here’s my own version, right back atcha: So supporting laws against murder must mean you believe all people should have cameras mounted on their foreheads to watch them at all times and if they violate any law the camera automatically explodes to kill them. Is that a fair, logical progression from your comment, John? Under your own operating procedures around here, apparently it is. To keep murder and rape illegal does not translate into the need for police brutality and assault, and your raising this inane comparison only serves to further erode your already low credibility. And by the way, your choice of the term “retarded” might make some people a little offended, John. Not too “progressive” of you there. Finally, once again I’d say that many of us think that society can exist within a context of acceptable behavior about not harming other people, without a need for a police force that enforces the state’s rule through use of brutality and violent assaults against dissidents.

John:
"Which we take as a compliment, thank you. So we aren’t fascists, we don’t get off on acting like bullies who are always out to prove something, we don’t enjoy hurting innocent people, we aren’t mindless robots who follow any order regardless of how inhumane -- yes, exactly. And your point is…?"
What would happen if every police officer suddenly disappeared? Would the world suddenly become peaceful? I doubt it. Where would we be without order; disorder maybe? I just don't understand why some of you think that there should be no police. It doesn't make any sense.

Me:
Two things: first, the issue of not needing police is all part of a larger context of political thought, John. Try to keep up, please. If armies and police disappeared and capitalist, imperialist, fascist social models were replaced with a system of true democracy and social justice, would the world suddenly become peaceful? Well…yeah. “Suddenly” of course is actually a dumb word, and merely another example of your disingenuous way of discussing everything. No, it’s a process that will take time, but eventually yes, things would be more peaceful. To start, however, maybe cops could stop assaulting and oppressing and murdering people. And you openly suggest that maintaining “order” seems to require brutal police who violate people’s human rights. So no, without YOUR form of “order” we don’t only have the option of “disorder” -- more typical illogical, mischaracterizing, empty rhetoric from you is all this is. And THAT is what doesn’t make any sense, John. You need to actually understand the politics you are trying to attack.

John:
"you say our protests never amount to anything. you obviously are not well educated on the history of activism and the effect it does have."
If I were watching at home I wouldn't know what your cause was. I'd have to agree with the other guy and say that more organization is needed. I also think you are taking his words out of context and applying them to things such as the civil rights movement.

Me:
Oh, very nice to see YOU talking about “taking his words out of context”. The hypocrisy is amazing. And in fact, in this instance the person you quoted was not at all doing anything inappropriate -- a direct assertion was made that “our” protests don’t accomplish anything, a claim repeated all over the place by rightwing trolls and cops. So it is entirely appropriate to point out that such views are obviously based on ignorance of the history of social struggle and movements for social justice. Another point is that in fact even though you have access to this site and may other outlets for activism, you STILL don’t know what our cause really is, as evidenced by your many false assertions and failed attempts to analyze and critique them. Yes, certainly more organization is needed, and t