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Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

This week, the DC Anti War Networks (DAWN's) Weekly Action was to join activists from all over the DC metro area to protest the American Renaissance Conference at the Dulles Hyatt Hotel in Herndon, Virginia. The protest began with activists entering the hotel to distribute information on the conference to guests staying at the Hyatt, and also included rally's on Friday night during conference registration, and all day Saturday.
Around 5 PM Friday evening members of the DC Anti-War Network (DAWN) joined protesters from all over Virginia, Maryland, and DC, outside of the Dulles Hyatt Hotel at 2300 Dulles Corner Blvd., in Herndon, Virginia, Upon arrival activists learned that various groups of people had entered the hotel throughout the afternoon, and just as DAWN activists had on Thursday, they had been escorted off the property. There was a spirited rally out in front of the Hyatt until about 9 PM during which many more fliers were distributed to guests, employees, delivery personnel, and passerby's. Except for the cars whose drivers were clearly there for the conference, many with Confederate Flag and other right-wing, White Power bumper-stickers, most people were supportive and outraged that the Hyatt was hosting such an event, Many guests expressed outrage and planned on switching hotels, but only after they let other guests know! Many more promised to call the Hyatt, and express concerns, trying to pressure them into never again hosting a White Power conference.

Throughout the evening a few conference attendees came out to harass us, taking photos of activists and driving by videotaping us. One of the men who came out was Dan Roodt, who is one of the leaders of the Pro-Afrikaans Action Group (PRAAG) which publicly denounced the end of Apartheid in South Africa. While Dan was speaking with one of the protesters, a couple of folks came out from the hotel and started yelling at Dan for inappropriately taking photographs of their children in their swim suits while they were in the pool. This was later reported to a police officer who was harassing activists, but he didn't seem all that interested.

There were a number of mainstream press crews there who did interviews with a variety of activists. One of them said as soon as the camera stopped rolling, "Now that the camera's off, I have to tell you all, I was just inside and its scary as shit!" They said they were only planning on running the story if they could do it in an "unbiased" manner, and yet still make the American Renaissance look like the evil, White Power organization they are. We determined that this would be easy, just quote their website (www.amren.com/conference/conference06.htm). The American Renaissance does not hide their racism, they are proud of it.

We called it a night shortly after 9 PM, planning to return early the next morning. Herndon is home not only to the biannual American Renaissance Conference, but it is the home town of the Herndon Minutemen organization. The Minutemen is a racist organization with chapters all over the country. They spend their energy fighting immigration and attacking, frightening, and intimidating immigrants around the country. There project in Herndon is to oppose the city-sanctioned Day Labor Office, were many low income workers, including many immigrants, go to find work for the day. For months the Minutemen have had the Labor Center under attack, taking photographs of laborers and their perspective employers, taking down employer vehicle license plate numbers and using other scare tactics against both the workers and their perspective employers. There had been much discussion both among activists and in the media about how the Hyatt's hosting of a White Power conference in Herndon would only give added momentum to the racist agenda of the Minutemen. As such there was concern that folks from the conference would head over the the day labor office before the conference began to harass workers and their employers. Thus on Saturday morning, activists from DAWN as well as other groups and individuals gathered at the day labor site from 530 AM until just after 8 AM, ready to create a human barrier between the workers, who have as much right as anybody else to make a living and feed their families, and the racists who may show up to try to stop them from doing just that.

Luckily, for whatever reason, the Minutemen took the day off (perhaps they were all at the conference), and day laborers were able to go to work without facing the hateful disturbance of the Minutemen's presence. One activist who spoke extensively with workers while we were there learned that the folks who run the day labor site had informed the workers the day before that the conference was happening, and they were prepared for the worst. They were instructed to be as non-confrontational as possible for their own safety and well being.

Once it became apparent no MInutemen were coming, (they were probably all attending the conference) the activists decided to head back over to the Hyatt Hotel. When we arrived we joined a group that had already gathered on the sidewalk by the main entrance. With banners, signs and loud chants, we marched through the parking garage to the conference entrance of the hotel. We were met at the entrance by a police officer and a Hyatt employee in a suit. We were informed we were trespassing and asked to leave the property. We very very slowly allowed them to escort us back to the sidewalk, while yelling "The Hyatt Hosts Racists," "Nazi's Not Welcome," and other anti-white power slogans to guests coming and going from the hotel. The goal of this was consistent with our messaging all weekend which was to hold the Hyatt accountable for hosting racist events. We also gave fliers to every car and delivery truck that drove by as we were leaving.

We spend most of the day there on the sidewalk in front of the Hyatt, Members of the mainstream press came and went, interviewing individuals for short sound-bytes or newspaper articles. One of the common messages folks were portraying both the media and to neighbors and passerby's was that the Hyatt must be held accountable for their actions. It was clearly articulated throughout the weekend that most people knew we were not going to change the minds of the biggest name white power activists from around the globe. The goal of the action therefore, was to convince enough guests to complain and switch hotels, and to create enough negative attention on the Hyatt to ensure this is the last year they support a White Power conference.

As the day went by and people came and left, our numbers fluctuated, sometimes as many as three dozen or more at a time. Waves of people would arrive, attempt to enter the hotel, and be escorted out, or else would be seen talking to us on their way to the hotel and not even be allowed onto the property. In one such case mid morning, an African-American man drove up and having read our signs said, "where are they? Where are those racists?" We pointed towards the Hyatt and he stepped on the gas, driving right past the three police cars parked along the hotel entrance road. A police car followed him quickly, and a police truck showed up on the scene minutes later. He was on the Hyatt grounds for five or ten minutes at most, and not being able to see the front entrance to the hotel from the road, we began to get nervous that he might be arrested if he made a scene.

Finally, we saw his vehicle returning from the Hyatt, and he pulled up to the curb to say hi. He told us that he had gone in and tried to get a room for him and his wife, but was thrown out for inquiring about the White Power conference. After a short discussion about what happened he decided to move on so the police couldn't complain about his vehicle stopped on the road way. He got about half a block away from the hotel entrance when three police cars put their lights on a sped after him. A number of activists followed on foot, hoping that their witnessing and photographing would lesson the police harassment of this innocent local man, guilty only of dissenting while black.

The car had been pulled over one block down from the hotel, and by the time we got there, there were ten police cars gathered having come from all directions. Many officers were out of their cars, wandering around the street and verbally harassing the driver. Protesters gathered on either sidewalk, as well as on the raised median strip between the two directions of traffic. Photos were taken and the police were questioned loudly about why they were harassing this innocent man and asked repeatedly to let him go. The police were asked why they were detaining this individual, what crime he had committed, and the only response was that he had not used his blinker leaving the Hyatt. It was clear they were just looking for someone to harass.

The two individuals from DAWN who were on the median were face to face with cops, asking them why they were protecting the White Power leaders and harassing this innocent local resident. They were asked how it made them feel to be working on behalf of a neo-nazi organization which preached hate speech against themselves, their families and friends. The activists on the median, who had earlier been told the median by the hotel was public property (just like the sidewalk) and that they could be there all they wanted were now threatened with arrest if they did not leave the "roadway." During the commotion a number of local residents came out of their homes and joined the activists in demanding the police stop harassing this gentleman, who lived in their neighborhood. We talked to them both about the police harassment of their neighbor, as well as about the conference at the Hyatt. They were outraged at both.

Once the police had gotten all of the activists to the sidewalk, they ordered the driver to move his vehicle into a spot tucked away, out of sight of the activists on the main roadway. The activists quickly followed on foot, and continued taking photos and demanding the police stop harassing the driver, who at this point had been removed from the vehicle and was continually facing harassment by at least half a dozen officers at a time.

Eventually, as the crowd of activists and neighborhood residents grew, the police presence decreased and finally they just left him alone. There followed a long discussion with him and his family and friends about mutual aid, solidarity, and tactics of resistance against white power and police brutality. Hugs, laughs, cries of outrage, encouraging words, and thank you's were shared between activists and local residents before the group, now joined by a couple of local residents including a very politicized young child, returned to the entrance of the Hyatt. Not ten minutes later, the same police officers who had been blatantly harassing a local man who happens not to be white, were driving in and out of the conference escorting wealthy, White Power leaders to and from their racist meetings.

As the day wore on, the police presence grew as conference attendees drove in and out of the Hyatt taking photos and videos of us, attempting to intimidate us. The remainder of the afternoon consisted of distributing fliers to passing by vehicles, and chanting "you forgot your hoods" and "go home racists" anytime cars drove by that were clearly driven by white power individuals. By early afternoon, members of DAWN returned to DC. Other activists remained at the hotel throughout the afternoon, and many planned to return Sunday morning (the conference ended Sunday at noon). Members of DAWN, though only getting 3 or 4 hours of sleep Friday night, returned to DC to cook a giant pot of chili which was brought, for the second of many Saturday evenings, to the Canadian Embassy to be shared with the folks that still live there. Numbers of folks staying in the vicinity of the Canadian Embassy are dwindling, which unfortunately is more likely a product of police brutality and harassment than of progress towards a homeless-free DC. We'll be back at the Canadian Embassy with another meal next Saturday.

We are still strongly encouraging people to call the Hyatt Hotel (numbers below) and express your concerns. The more people who complain to the Hyatt (both the local office and the corporate headquarters in Chicago), the less likely they are to host the American Renaissance hate conference again.

Please call both the Dulles Hyatt Hotel and the Hyatt corporate office!
Hyatt Dulles Hotel Local Number: 703-713-1234.
Hyatt Dulles Hotel Fax Number: 703-713-3410
Hyatt Corporate Headquarters: 312-750-1234 (in Chicago)
 
 
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Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

I'm confused - How is it that these people don't have the same rights to free speech and assembly that you have when you stage a protest or otherwise express your opinion? Do you flier and rally at NAACP meetings? You're full of self-righteous protest songs, but why can't you answer the hard questions?
 

Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

"I'm confused - How is it that these people don't have the same rights to free speech and assembly that you have when you stage a protest or otherwise express your opinion? Do you flier and rally at NAACP meetings? You're full of self-righteous protest songs, but why can't you answer the hard questions?"

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The right-wing facsist bigots of the organizations protested on Saturday at the hotel do have the freedom of speech. And please don't compare the NAACP to the Klan. They are not the same. And if you can't see that then you have serious problems. Get some perspective! The issue, and please pay attention, is that the Hyatt Hotel has accomodated, through discounts etc. these hate groups. In facilitating these hate groups the Hyatt has acted in bad faith to the people of the community of Herndon and all people opposed to racism. The Hyatt has tarnished it's corporate image in catering to these small-minded hatemongers. Those who protested on Saturday are determined not to have this group back again at this hotel or any DC area hotels. They will not be allowed back as a group. Now, if they want to do dress up in the privacy of their hotel rooms and get off looking at pictures of Adolph Hitler then that's their bag. But, the hate groups will not be back next year. The Hyatt has made a terrible mistake and the people of Herndon, Virginia, and the DC area will be letting them know. The American Renfest will have to go back to the woods and swamps where they belong. Their message is not mainstream. Just as the Hyatt would not accomodate a child molesting organization like NAMBLA they should have the decency not to offend their workers, guests, and neighbors many of whom are people of color and immigrants. The hate messages of these groups is a marginal extremist message that will not be tolerated in multicultural Fairfax County or any other decent community.
 

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I will continue to group together all racist groups - including these white supremesists and the NAACP. When you distinguish one person from another based on the color of their skin, you are practicing racism. For some reason, the protesting community goes nuts over a whites only group, but pays no mind to meetings filled with racist filth by blacks only groups. If its about standing up for morality and principle, you should be doind it all the time, not just on fronts where it is politically correct. Why should this hotel filter its bookings through your half-assed political agenda? Please explain why you find it acceptable for some people to organize themselves and exclude others based on skin color, but find this same behavior bigoted in other cases. If there is some perspective for me to gain here, please furnish some.
 

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Why don't you help us answer the question? Why do you think we do? Get over the "political correct" strawman. No one does anything on that basis; that's simply a label. Why do you think it's done?

Let's forget for the moment that the NAACP is and has never been a "black power" organization; why do we think it legitimate for oppressed groups to organize along the basis of skin and not "white power groups." I've provided a hint to the basis of the answer in this paragraph. What's really going on here?

You who attack anti-racists as racists try and think what the argument probably is, and then let's have a discussion about that. Stop with strawman arguments and let's really air out our differences.
 
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"When you distinguish one person from another based on the color of their skin, you are practicing racism"

Does that mean when you are looking for a suspect in a crime and in your description, you tell the person's skin color, you are racist? Well does it? Hmmmmm?
 

Re: Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

Quite outlandish calling these people bigots and racists. If South Africa's ANC attended this meeting, what would your comments have been then? This organisation is turning a blind eye to 30 000(!) infants and babies getting raped by AIDS infected Africans every year, while the SA police wants to close their child molestation department. Along with this, 1800 SA farmers were savagely murdered since Mandela's release in 1990. Some experts concluded the criteria for genocide have already been met with the murders of these farmers, not to mention the wave of famine about to be released on millions of poor blacks, which would only agravate the cycle of violence.
But no, as soon as a white South African condemns these crimes and wants to take defensive action, he is scorned a bigot and a racist.
Unfortunately life isn't always as idyllic outside the hardline Stalinist ivory tower as many worshippers of multiculturalism proclaim, and abetting one's guilt feelings on another man's genocide is not the way to go about.
 

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Perhaps you can explain to us how it is that because the ANC ruler of South Africa denies that HIV causes AIDS that that has anything to do with whether the people at the American Renaissance are racists and bigots.
 

Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

Some more thoughts on this as a participant in the actions:

I continue to be dismayed that liberals do not come out and take a stand against racism. They speak against it on their blogs, highlight the articles, give "kudos" to the activists, but they don't come out. If you can't be against the Hyatt subsidizing a racist conference, what can you be against? If that doesn't get you out trying to stop it, what will? This is very clear.

Some have said that this is a "freedom of speech" issue. It's not a freedom of speech issue. Anyone should be allowed to say whatever stupid thing comes to their head no matter what. The question here is amplification of speech, whether the Hyatt should be subsidizing that speech...not whether they can, but whether they should and whether those who stay at the Hyatt should.

The issue is not speech; the issue is power in the aid of speech, in this particular case corporate power in the aid of speech. Speech is not equal in a society that is both hierarchical and run on money and capital, and one questions the extent then to which speech is free. When that is coupled with the point that the white power groups use their speech to speak for a society where some will speak more freely than others, then the "free speech" claim is exposed even more clearly as false.

What this also turned into was an issue over property rights. It is clear that the state will when faced with a conflict between community interest (namely that racism be repudiated by society) and private property rights that the state always stands on the side of private property protection. So, no matter what society says the laws are in regards to racism, they hold no say when coming face-to-face with property rights. We have seen that over and over again, and the power of the state will be used to enforce the boundaries of property over and above any community need (unless that need happens to be eminent domain, which often is used by larger corporate interests rather than anything that resembles a true public interest).

The police protected the private property rights of the Hyatt to exclude protest even though there is an indubitable community interest to prevent power in the support of racism. Even before the incident that was written about above, the police stood with the racists. Just as pernicious, they stood for private property rights even when there is an obvious conflict with public interest.

So, who does the law stand with? It stands with the rich, those with capital, those with property, the corporations, and white racists. It always has.

Another interesting thing that happened was at the day laborer facility. Some of us were sitting on the side of the road before the center opened. A man with a truck came by and said, "trabajos?", meaning "workers." We simply said that the center didn't open until 7 PM. He got indignant and said, "I don't care about them; I need workers now!"

What happens is that contractors will try to hustle for workers desperate for a job without going through the center. Some who need work will take these job offers from these contracting pimps, but we have reports that many don't pay. So, in essence, they pimp sometimes for slave labor. It's easy to divide people who are hungry and need work.

I found being asked that question disempowering, and I also realized my own sense of privilege...the thought that I would be asked on the side of the road if I needed work for the day. There were values I had exposed, and I felt embarrassed by it, though glad that it was exposed.

I was also very happy the minutemen didn't show up. From information we have, it seems they tend to come more on weekend mornings. One worry that I had was the fear that the workers might mistake us for minutemen. Thankfully, we were able to get the message out that we were there in solidarity, and they were very receptive to our presence. Even so, it was good to leave knowing that we weren't needed that day.

I can hear people talking about the above report given by our friend and talk about the dangers of not using a turn signal. I don't recall too many people on that extremely isolated road using their turn signals. Given the extreme response, this was not about enforcing traffic laws. How one chooses to enforce laws, to whom those laws apply, is itself an issue. And, just as enforcing traffic laws was not the issue neither is the law the issue on immigration (even though those laws also protect the same privileged system that we saw protected at the Hyatt), but that's pretty obvious.

Jim Macdonald
 

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a couple corrections - 7 AM
minutemen tend to harrass workers on weekday mornings (probably others...but those are the two big ones I caught)
 

Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

I can guarantee you this African-American gentleman would have been at least arrested if not sent to the hospital if not for the activists that kept the pressure on the pigs.

They tried to get him into a "private" spot, implying they indended to violate his civil rights but could not escape the Copwatch. That's why these mohterfuckers threw in the towel...
 

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Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

Here is WSQT's coverage of the weekend:
radio.indymedia.org/uploads/herndon_f25_nazis.mp3

Included as well as audio of the protest is an interview with Chief Billy Tynac of the Piscataway Nation on the hypocrisy of European "Americans" calling anyone else an "illegal!"
 

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As one of the people who protested the nazi white trash (oh, does that offend you conservatives that I call Nazis "white trash"? Boo Hoo. I thought you right wingers were all for hate speech.) conference at the Hyatt, I can tell you that we did not hinder the white supremacists' or the Hyatt's freedom of speech in any way whatsoever. We were not lobbying for there to be "hate speech" laws. We were not forcing the racists to keep their mouths shut or be thrown in jail. We were not forcing the Hyatt to stop hosting racist trash. We were exposing the Hyatt for it's history of supporting white supremacists and we were bringing shame upon the Hyatt so that in the future, those in the Hyatt may be more inclined to decide on their own free will not to host racist events. There is a big difference between what we were doing and limiting freedom of speech. You may have heard the line, "the cure for hate speech is not restrictions on freedom of speech, the cure for hate speech is more speech." And that's what we were doing. We were practicing "more speech", not restricting speech. I find it interesting though that conservatives who are so eager to have cops arrest people for speaking out against war and occupation, are all of the sudden champions of free speech when racist extremists like those at the Amren confrence want to engage in their ignoramus trash conventions. It goes to show that conservatives are actually not interested in free speech, but are simply interested in squashing dissent and supporting white supremacists. Their free speech argument crumbles under the slightest consideration.
 

Re: Doing the Freepers a favorActivists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

Hey Freepers! I know you want to post all your insightful comments about the protest against your friends at the conference. But, I'll save you the time. Here is what y'all are saying on Free Republic: "When blacks are left entirely to their own devices, Western civilization — any kind of civilization — disappears."
Must be referring to Zimbabwe.

1 posted on 02/26/2006 6:14:52 AM PST by FerdieMurphy
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To: FerdieMurphy
If it had been a Hamas group, no one would say a word.


2 posted on 02/26/2006 6:20:17 AM PST by desertlily
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To: FerdieMurphy
We're letting people know that Hyatt is supporting these people," student activist Tariq Khan said.
He's probably a Muslim, which more than likely would make him a Muslim supremacist.

Someone should ask him if he supports Shariah Law (codified Islamic supremacy) implementation.

3 posted on 02/26/2006 6:22:09 AM PST by Eighth Street (Who do you hate more? Muslims who want to kill you or the Libs who want to sell you out to them?)
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To: FerdieMurphy
The conference in the Washington suburb of Herndon is sponsored by the Oakton, Va.-based New Century Foundation, whose leader says the white race is losing its identity in the United States because of multiculturalism and immigration.
But let's have a whole month named "Black History Month" and have a racist and bigoted "Congressional Black Caucus" as a legitimate organization of congress.

4 posted on 02/26/2006 6:22:22 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: desertlily
If it had been anything but a white group, no one would have said a word.


5 posted on 02/26/2006 6:22:58 AM PST by Eighth Street (Who do you hate more? Muslims who want to kill you or the Libs who want to sell you out to them?)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Has there ever been a "Great Negroid Society" on the planet, any time or any place in the history of the world?

7 posted on 02/26/2006 6:28:10 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: FerdieMurphy
Hyatt should not be in the business of refusing rooms to anyone who is not engaged in criminal activity. Last I heard, being a white supremacist, no matter how stupid it might be, is not against the law.


8 posted on 02/26/2006 6:28:37 AM PST by Casloy
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To: Eighth Street
If it had been any group other than whites, the govt would have paid for the entire cost of the conference, travel for the esteemed delegates, food, sex, etc etc etc.


9 posted on 02/26/2006 6:29:00 AM PST by son of caesar
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To: FerdieMurphy
Hyatt doesn't want to make waves. Its the cowards' way out though.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")


10 posted on 02/26/2006 6:30:23 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Why is it cowardly?


11 posted on 02/26/2006 6:33:33 AM PST by Eighth Street (Who do you hate more? Muslims who want to kill you or the Libs who want to sell you out to them?)
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To: TexasCajun
Has there ever been a "Great Negroid Society" on the planet, any time or any place in the history of the world?
The Egyptians were, at least, Africans. They enslaved some of my ancestors and made them build pyramids.

12 posted on 02/26/2006 6:35:08 AM PST by boojumsnark (Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Interestingly enough, a couple of months ago, there was a thread here on some hotel that was hosting a convention of "swingers." Lots of angry posts about that one.



13 posted on 02/26/2006 6:45:14 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: TexasCajun
Has there ever been a "Great Negroid Society" on the planet, any time or any place in the history of the world?
Well, everybody knowa Cleopatra was black, just like Jesus.

14 posted on 02/26/2006 6:45:26 AM PST by Maceman (Fake but accurate -- and now double-sourced)
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To: MineralMan
And they were calling for a boycott?

I don't think so.


15 posted on 02/26/2006 6:46:17 AM PST by Eighth Street (Who do you hate more? Muslims who want to kill you or the Libs who want to sell you out to them?)
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To: Eighth Street
"And they were calling for a boycott?

I don't think so."

Actually, they were calling for a boycott. Several posters said they'd never stay in that chain again.


16 posted on 02/26/2006 7:04:01 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
Sure of course.

And, calling for a boycott is much different than saying "I won't stay in this hotel again."


17 posted on 02/26/2006 7:04:41 AM PST by Eighth Street (Who do you hate more? Muslims who want to kill you or the Libs who want to sell you out to them?)
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To: Eighth Street
OK. Here's a thread where there was a call for a boycott of a hotel because it had let some "communist" group book a banquet room. Don't kid yourself. It happens here as well as on the other side:

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1489489/posts


18 posted on 02/26/2006 7:11:22 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: Eighth Street
Here's another thread, where the Southern Baptists were calling for the boycott of the Howard Johnson chain, because one of the hotels booked some sort of sex thing into their hotel.

www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/660090/posts


19 posted on 02/26/2006 7:16:10 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
Wow a whopping 29 posts, most of them not calling for a boycott...

You're going to have to do much better than that.

And for the record, being the germophobe that I am, I wouldn't want to stay in a room where I knew the previous occupants were engaging in bizarre sex acts.


20 posted on 02/26/2006 7:16:54 AM PST by Eighth Street (Who do you hate more? Muslims who want to kill you or the Libs who want to sell you out to them?)
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To: MineralMan
Another whopping 35 post thread, that is almost four years old.

I think you purposely seek out ways in which to get offended.


21 posted on 02/26/2006 7:18:22 AM PST by Eighth Street (Who do you hate more? Muslims who want to kill you or the Libs who want to sell you out to them?)
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To: FerdieMurphy
Cue the South Park "Gingervitus" screenshot of the Ginger conference at the Airport Hilton...


22 posted on 02/26/2006 7:34:24 AM PST by ikka
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To: TexasCajun
Yes, every group has had their day. In the case of Africa as in the Mid--east it was centuries ago.


23 posted on 02/26/2006 7:49:44 AM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Eighth Street
"I think you purposely seek out ways in which to get offended."

I'm not offended. Just pointing things out. You mentioned not staying in hotels where wierd sex acts have taken place. You really might want to reconsider staying in hotels at all, then. Take a cheap black light to the hotel, next time you go and shine it around in the darkened room. Dried bodily secretions will show up quite brightly. You'd be amazed at all the places you'll find them.


24 posted on 02/26/2006 7:57:15 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
Now I don't even want to travel anymore....thanks for ruining my travel plans for next summer. I think I'll buy me a big ol' RV, and say to heck with the fleabag hotels! Go figure!!! :0 )


25 posted on 02/26/2006 9:54:11 AM PST by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

To: "I will continue to group together all racist groups - including these white supremesists and the NAACP. When you distinguish one person from another based on the color of their skin, you are practicing racism. For some reason, the protesting community goes nuts over a whites only group, but pays no mind to meetings filled with racist filth by blacks only groups. If its about standing up for morality and principle, you should be doind it all the time, not just on fronts where it is politically correct. Why should this hotel filter its bookings through your half-assed political agenda? Please explain why you find it acceptable for some people to organize themselves and exclude others based on skin color, but find this same behavior bigoted in other cases. If there is some perspective for me to gain here, please furnish some." You simply expose your racism and ignorance. You continue to equate white racsists with the NAACP. The NAACP is not a racsist group. You, if you are white or any other race or religion, can join it. In fact I urge you to join it. You might learn something. Furthermore, the NAACP was founded by a multi-ethnic group of people including Jews. Do you have anything to say about Jews? Try learning about more about what you are talking about before you open your mouth about the NAACP.
 

Re: Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

True, a white person could join the NAACP, but that wasn't nearly my point. A black person could have attanded this conferece if they agreed with all of the rhetoric. The NAACP recognizes and perpetuates racial division - by that I mean the grouping of people based on the color of their skin, and treating the differently colored groups differently. This is racism - there is no simpler definition. How is it wrong when white people do it but not wrong when black people do it? I know you can repeat the same old spin, but do you think about what you're saying?
 

Re: Re: Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

Why would a black person go to a racist conference organized by groups who deny the holocaust, want all people of color deported, support violence against black people, believe blacks are inferior? You keep on equating the NAACP with the these hatemongers and racists. You can't equate the message of the KKK with the NAACP. You keep doing this. This really says a lot about you. Do you really believe the KKK is the mirror image of the the NAACP? That is truly sick! You obviously don't understand the mission of the NAACP. How is their message the same as the KKK? Please explain.
 
Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference / 28 Feb 2006

Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

My wife and I arrived at the Hyatt on Saturday, at about 4:00pm. Unfortunately, no protesters were still out there. We walked all around the hotel, but saw nobody. So we decided that since we were in the middle of nowhere and hadn't eaten, and since we needed to call a taxi, we would go into the hotel and see if there was a restaraunt and payphone.

As we approached the front door, we were surrounded by police. When they learned that we had arrived looking for protesters, they asked to see identification and recorded our names, then informed us that we were on private property and had to leave. We told them we intended to eat and use the phone, but they said we weren't welcome there and Hyatt didn't want us there for any reason. They told us we had to go to a parking lot across the street, that the road had to be between us and the Hyatt, and then they escorted us off the property. We saw three police vehicles, and four officers spoke with us and another two sat in an SUV nearby. While leaving, we asked the police where a phone or somewhere to eat was, and they indicated that a small business area with phones and food was just up the road around a curve -- and we twice pointed in the direction they indicated to be sure we went the right way, and they confirmed that it was supposedly the correct direction.

We crossed the road and while we stood there, the SUV pulled across the road and sat in the parking lot behind us to watch us. We finally decided that we should set out on foot for the business area the police told us about, and we walked in the direction they had indicated. Alas, it was a long road through a residential area with no businesses or restaraunts or phones at all. We arrived at an intersection at a 6-lane highway or interstate, and there was no median or sidewalk or anywhere safe to walk. So we had no idea how we could get back to the Metro, and we had no choice but to stand at the intersection and hope that we could flag down a taxi as it sped by.

We got lucky after about 20 minutes and a taxi actually swerved over onto the side of the road to pick us up, and after we explained what had happened to us and that we tried to protest a neo-nazi convention, the driver took us to the airport and told us the ride was free.

It was a rather frustrating day, not only because of all that happened at the Hyatt, but also because the trip there took about two-and-a-half hours, as did the return trip. We were also disappointed that no protesters remained (the police actually told us that the last protesters had left by 2 or 3 in the afternoon, an hour before we finally got there).

Now, a few points to consider about Hyatt.

First, a Hyatt representative has been quoted in news articles as saying the hotel doesn't discriminate against guests/conferences/whatever based on the views of the guests. Well, that's an outright lie. Hyatt explicitly refused to do business with anyone who opposed the conference, anyone who was ANTI-Nazi. They said we were not welcome, even when in the case of my wife and I we ended up not being able to join the protests and so would merely have been "customers" -- so it was our VIEWS, our opposition to the conference, which was the sole factor in Hyatt's apparent disdain for us and for their decision to refuse service to us. Hyatt was only interested in doing business with those who FAVOR the viewpoint of Nazis, period. Nobody else was welcome. We were SO unwelcome, in fact, that Hyatt called the cops to act as the hotel's own private security force and to find and evict anyone (including customers) who disagreed with Nazism.

This brings up an important side point -- nobody from the Hyatt spoke with my wife an I, nobody from the Hyatt determined our views and made any decision about whether we were "unwelcome" or not and nobody from the Hyatt itself actually accused us of "trespassing". The police were given full authority by the hotel to stop and interogate anyone on the property and order people off depending upon the person's views. Well, can the police take it upon themselves to act as enforcers of tresspass laws in any OTHER circumstances? Can just ANYONE call the police and tell the cops to routinely patrol their private property and stop and question anyone at their whim, and to expell anyone with specific viewpoints? In other words, were the police at the Hyatt even acting legally when they walked around and stopped people and told them they weren't welcome on the property, if no Hyatt security personel were there to make a determination of any sort? Can my neighbors and I (who all share similar viewpoints) call the police and tell them to patrol our apartment complex, and (acting on our behalf) to run off anyone with rightwing viewpoints (if we theoretically own the property)?

Okay, a second point is that Hyatt does NOT have a standard policy granting discounts like the one given to the neo-nazis. We called the Hyatt last night, and were informed that there is NO guaranteed discount for conference attendees or group rates etc. So Hyatt did in fact offer a special deal to the nazis, worked out with them in private, to grant them special rates not necessarily granted to other groups and conferences. The nazis got roughly a 16% discount (the Hyatt informed us the regular rate is $99, and the nazis paid $84 per room). So Hyatt cannot pretend that this was not an example of special treatment for nazis, or that all groups get standard discounts or the like.

As a private business, with private property, Hyatt can and does make determination about who they are willing to do business with based strictly upon that person or group's beliefs (as with ANTI-nazis). Hyatt decided that it values the views and money of nazis more than anti-nazis, and they decided further that they would work out a special discount deal for nazis that does not apply to regular guests or even to all other groups and conferences. Further, Hyatt has publicly lied by claiming that they don't refuse to do business based upon people's or groups' beliefs.

As a business, Hyatt made these decisions and chose to stick with them despite getting numerous calls of complaint from the public, numerous complaints from guests, and negative media attention in advance and during the conference. So we, the public, have every right and responsibility to decide not only to refuse to give Hyatt our business, but also to spread the word about Hyatt's business practices and to encourage others to complain to Hyatt and to refuse to give Hyatt their business. We should all also contact the Fairfax Police Department to complain about public services being supplied as a private security force for a corporation. I would like to know how many rapes, burglaries, assaults, etc took place while a large group of police were used for weekend patroling of private property (remember, the police told my wife and I that there'd been no protesters around for two hours when we arrived, yet there were still several police vehicles and officers -- it took six cops and three vehicles just for the TWO of us!).
 

Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

It's interesting to note that conservatives, rather than seeing this as an opportunity to condemn the racism of the Hyatt and of the Amren white trash, they instead see it as a time to condemn what they call the racism of the NAACP. It makes me say, "Huh?" The NAACP had nothing at all to do with this action. They did not take part in it in any way whatsoever. The protesters were not members of the NAACP, so why do conservatives continually bring it up? It seems to me that they do it because they don't want to face the reality of white racism, so instead of dealing with and condemning the nazis and KKK members at the Amren conference, they change the subject to something completely unrelated. Instead of exposing and opposing the ignorant white supremacist trash that spews from Amren filth, they instead start whining about how supposedly racist the NAACP is, which is completely unrelated to the protest against the Hyatt. As if conservatives are oppressed by the NAACP! Hah! Hey white trash conservatives, we see right through you. You claim to be anti-racist by opposing the NAACP, but really you are closet white supremacists. Otherwise you would have used this Amren conference as an opportunity to condemn white supremacy instead of an opportunity to condemn the NAACP, a group that had nothing whatsoever to do with the opposition to Amren and the Hyatt. Once again, we see that conservatives just don't get it.
 

Re: Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

Also, the "conservatives" have friends in the Minutemen movement which is connected to the facist racists. They are their allies in their right-wing movement. This is hitting too close to home. SO CHANGE THE SUBJECT!
 

remember, boys and girls!

Whenever someone disagrees with you, revert to robotic idiocy and call them a Fascist and a Racist and a Homophobe!

Works every time! You'll be King Shit in the Unbathed community.
 

Re: remember, boys and girls!

Well, actually we don't call them fascists out of some robotic impulse, we call them fascists, racists, and homophobes because they ARE fascists, racists, and homophobes. If you don't believe me, then look up those words in the dictionary, then read the things that the Amren speakers have written, and you will see that the Amren trash fit those descriptions perfectly. But if you have any real criticisms, then I'd love to hear them. But I have yet to hear a good criticism that is worthy of consideration come from racist, xenophobic, homophobic, fascist white trash. It seems that conservatives are more interested in defending white supremacist groups than they are in actually thinking. Maybe too much FOX News and fast food has rotted the conservative brain.
 

Re: Re: remember, boys and girls!

FOr that matter, some of the people at the conference call THEMSELVES fascists!
 

Re: remember, boys and girls!

GO TO THE AMREN WEBSITE, there you will see in their writing a man who could serve 7 years for inciting racial hatred. David Dukes was the Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan! Is that not racist and facist. As for this unbathed community, I have talked with the FReepers and they have claimed they shower but I think they probably spill a lot of beer on their shirts and pants and don't wipe well and that is why they seem so unbathed. Luckily I try and shower every night so I don't smell like you!
 

Re: Re: remember, boys and girls!

Just a lot of name calling.... try backing your arguments with logic instead of weak emotional name calling.
 

Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

Actually, we call people who defend white supremacy "fascists" because they fit that description well. Also, if you read the filth written by Amren supporters, you will see that the words racist and homophobe also apply. Other words that apply just as easily are xenophobic, willfully ignorant, hateful, and white trash. But if conservatives would like to live in denial of bold faced facts, then I suppose there's not much we can do about that. FOX news and fast food are there to keep the conservative mind rotten, slow, and willfully ignorant. Also, why do white power supporters always have such bad breath?
 

Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

The "conservatives" who defend the Hyatt Hitlers or change the subject, as has been pointed out over and over again, can't deal with the fact that they have aligned themselves with facists, racists, and hatemongers. One can go to any of the web sites for the attenders of the Hyat Hate-fest and clearly see they are racists. But, please, go to the Free Republic web site and one will find all kinds of homophobia, racism, and misogyny.
 

Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

Uh, could people stop using the phrase "white trash", since it happens to have racist implications towards non-whites? I know those using it probably aren't aware of the term's origins and inherent meaning, but it really is based in racism (and I don't mean racism against white people, I swear). Obviously, it's being used to kind of insult and get under the skin of the nazi-sympathizers posting here, which is fun and I like to see, but be careful that you don't resort to language that is itself racist.
 

Re: Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

I agree. We act like them and use rascist terms then eventually we become them.
 

Re: Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

It's about TIME someone said that!
 

Re: Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

you need to include redneck in there also. Any word that is meant for a racial group in a negative way should never be used. It does nothing but show us how stupid you are. When anyones turns to name calling it really means that they have run out of solid arguments.
 

Re: Activists Protest Hyatt's Hosting of White Power Conference

This article is so bias it screams reverse racism. This organization has as much right to have a conference at the Hyatt, as do the Black Panthers;wether we agree with them ,or not. And, since when does the confederate flag represent racism. That flag is part of American history representing the confederate army...nothing more. Get over it!!
 

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