As Mayor Anthony Williams began his remarks, he was interrupted by citizens concerned about the crisis situation of DC Central Kitchen, displacement of residents, businesses, and clubs in the area of the new stadium, and underfunded DC schools.
Arriving at Half Street and O Street SE this morning, it was shocking to see just how many wealthy (in this case at the expense of DC residents) members of the business community were in attendance at the groundbreaking for a new stadium for the Washington Nationals. The stadium is estimated to cost in excess of $600 million.
As Mayor Anthony Williams began his remarks, he was interrupted by citizens concerned about the crisis situation of DC Central Kitchen, displacement of residents, businesses, and clubs in the area of the new stadium, and underfunded DC schools(either by eminent domain, coercion, enticement, or otherwise).
Those there to oppose the backwards priorities of developers and some city leaders chanted and held signs, including "Feed the Homeless, Not the Greedy", "Feed the Needy, Not the Greedy", and "Feed the Poor, Not the Greedy", drawing the attention of many in attendance for some minutes. One activist was also aggressively chased away from the groundbreaking site prior to the speech and threatened with arrest.
It is also worth pointing out that, in addition to $600 million being spent on a stadium (while thousands are without regular meals), the District of Columbia spends $2.1 million annually to fund JROTC programs in public schools. Such money could easily be better spent on an already severely underfunded DC public school system (repairing crumbling school buildings for instance), or to help provide funding for DC Central Kitchen, or both (rather than on exposing children to warfare and weapons). Without public pressure however, it won't. The mayor, the developers, and the military, will continue to ignore the needs of DC residents unless we force them to change.
Meanwhile, DC Central Kitchen, and those who they provide regular daily meals for(some 1800 per day) are still in dire straits. For seventeen years DC Central Kitchen has taken on this task, free of charge, by privately raising 1.6 million dollars annually to collect, prepare, and deliver food. Due to increasing costs of providing healthy, nutritional meals to DC residents, DC Central Kitchen is no longer able to shoulder all of the financial burden for providing said meals. As early as 2004, DCCK approached city officials regarding this impending crisis, alerting themm to the fact that the current situation (all private funding) was unsustainable. The agency also responsible for allocating city funding for homeless services to other institutions is the Community Partnership for the Prevention of Homelessness. Letting deadlines for awarding funding to DCCK pass (the earliest of which was April 15), CPPH has yet to give DCCK the funding it needs to be able to provide 1800 healthy, nutritious meals a day. CPPH's executive director, Sue Marshall, can be reached at 202 543 5298, ext. 102. She needs to be urged to give DCCK the funding that they need, so that regular food service can be restored. Please see dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/133677/index.php for other ways to help.
Those concerned will also be expressing their concern with, and outrage at, the mayor's complicity in this situation, tonight, at 930 PM at the home of Mayor Williams; 2475 Virginia Avenue, Potomac Plaza Apartments(near the intersection of Virginia Avenue and New Hampshire Avenue across from the Watergate). Fund DC Central Kitchen now!
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Text of email sent to Jack Evans
This is because they have received no support from the city and their main backers can no longer sustain the situation without help. Members of DAWN(the DC Anti-War Network) fed people today at Franklin shelter, but that's just one shelter on one night. We cannot do this every night at every shelter!
Still, if an activst group can for a couple hundred bucks in donations feed 200 people at one shelter one night,jist 1/1000 of the stadium budget($611,000) would surely be more than enough money to keep donated food flowing to our most needy citizens!
Since you have been so involved in the whole MLB situation, perhaps you could encourage the Mayor and other city officials to fund DC Central kitchen saying "We've got what we need, now it's someone else's turn."
Maybe someday in the future, when the homeless are considered as important as everyone else, we can break ground together on a new shelter building, kitchen facilities, etc!
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Money for schools, shelters, social services are critical for this city, but the money is on a dead end track. its is an investment in people, but that money in no way comes back to the city.
Investments is cultural institutions and entertainment actually make money for the city in the long run. this in turn can be used to help people in need.
while i am VERY OPPOSED to the public funding of the stadium, i understand how the money flows.
its not simple math here peeps.
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Okay, would you please elaborate? You don't say enough to make your point clear.
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the dollar for dollar idea doesnt take into account the validity of the city making investments for its economic future. The stadium financing has the intent of bringing the city far greater returns.
This is the idea in funding ( actually "bonding".. but fundametally its still money) the great streets initiative, main streets, the entertainment venues downtown ( arena stage, wolly mammoth, etc...) the city gets monet back from these projects in excess. this is how the is able to fund other projects that dont bring the city cash., ie shelters, and social services.
if the city spent this cash solely on non investment projects, we'd be outta money quick, with no hopes of financial return of those monies.
thats why the dollar for dollar idea doesnt work.
our city is SERIOUSLY disinvested, which has lead to its poor economy and divergences of classes. we need to create and invest in jobs, and opportunities for business.
i hope that makes sense. also, while i understand this model of financing, i do not support the stadium project. there was way more passion behind these decisions that good old fashioned hard and clear thinking.
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What is your evidence for this? Are you saying that investing in housing assistance and job-training does not result in an increase in tax-paying citizens? Are you really saying that investing in schools results in no return for that investment? Gee, I guess we should just let un-schooled people design our roads and bridges or perform brain surgery. Think of the money we'd save!
The bottom line is, you mis-spoke. And now you see why. And it's likely that you don't even have any data to back up what you're claiming: that investing in stadiums results in a higher return for cities than investing in shelters, schools, and social services.
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their is ample evidence for increased tax base through entertainment venues. this is so not contoversial or arguable. i was on committees during the bonding of entertainment venues in the penn quarter. i have seen the tax base estimates. i have seen the tax base fulfillments in the gallerty place/ penn quarter neighborhood. it is quite impressive.
you can find them via the dc.gov site. search for "Main streets". there sources are numerous. also search the office of planning site.
as for return on dc public services. do YOU have proof that dc job training programs and social services have a positive effect for the city at large? I doubt you do, and that evidence is definitely arguable. How many people from these programs are designing bridges or doing brain surgery? i'd bet zero.
it is an interesting accusation that you make though, and i do wish that investing in social service had a higher capital return than investing in stadiums. if you could prove this true, i would be very pleased to hear it. i do honestly prefer my tax money to help people in need, rather than those seeking diversions due to their ample free time and disposable income, but the bottom line isn't on our side.
and money for dc schools is a money pit. the corruption is far too great and with more in the system making over 100,000 than most other cities is criminal. our school system is a mockery that money will not solve.
if you wish to make a point, make it with facts, so we can use them to the advantage of our fellow cityfolk. our social services are failing and become lifelong crutches for people. we have generational poverty and families living on government assistance. how are our training programs helping?
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Those are your words. Again, how does one perform brain surgery without any schooling? Pretty poorly I'll bet. Do I need to cite evidence for this? Are you willing to present yourself as a candidate for such surgery from a surgeon who has never ever been to school?
You were the one implying that investing in stadiums results in more money for cities than investing in schools and social services. Since you are the one making that claim, it is incumbent upon you to provide the evidence for the claim. It is not incumbent upon me to provide evidence just because I question your claim. By your logic, you could claim that there's green cheese on Mars, and when I ask you to provide evidence, you say it's up to me to provide evidence that Mars is made of something else. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
Your extreme claim (that there is zero return from investing in schools and social services) is easily refutable on its face with logic alone. In case you forgot, see the example about brain surgery above. Social services such as shelter and job training for adults does result in an increase in tax-paying citizens (how do I know this? Look at the welfare rolls over time. The people who are offf welfare didn't all die. Most of them became tax-paying employees). They may not all be brain surgeons or civil engineers, but the jobs they do work in generate real money, real taxable money, not the Monopoly play money you may think it is. It doesn't matter whether the work is particularly difficult or not. It still generates taxable income. That's the whole idea behind the "welfare to work" programs that you're likely so proud of.
Now, you may say that it doesn't generate as much income for the city as does investing in a stadium. I don't know whether that's true or not. But you should be able to come up with evidence for that if that's your position now.
Ok? Understand now? Good.
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Anyway, I do see that you missed my point and we have begun and argument based of trivialities. you're playing a game of analyzing my words rather than reading my message. This serves no purpose, since i garner that we probably wish the same thing for our city in terms of helping people. Maybe i'm wrong and you're just being insulting for its own sake.
either way, I apologize for not being the wordsmith you seem to require.
To believe that the city makes back the money they put into social serices is beyond my comprehension. do you think this can put the city in the black? I use the words "return of zero" to express "net" rather than "gross". If you were not just looking to disagree, you could have easily seen that, rather than attempt to engage in a semantical argument. I don't believe there is one page of data to represent this because it is completely accepted that there is no net profit in social services. that is not their point. They are not a business and do not generate profit/loss statments as such. The budget of the department of human services is around 50 million a year. I don't believe that human services track the stats of people no longer utilizing their funds. Do you believe that the taxes generated from these programs equal 50 million?
To think that one can become a brain surgeon from city funded schools and social programs is also incomprehensible to me. perhaps you know of programs i don't, and perhaps they should be more well know to the general public. perhaps the 50% of public school kids that actually manage to graduate from dc schools could utilize these.
for info on schools and money in dc, i point you to the information here:
dcedublog.blogspot.com/
there is a lot of info there, and you are free to puruse what you'd like.
or perhaps you were,again just arguing sematics rather than substance. if that is the case, you are right, my wording wasn't comprehensive enough.
for economic impact of the stadium go here:
app.cfo.dc.gov/services/fiscal_impact/search.asp
i not sure why you say I'm likely so proud of the welfare to work program. moot, really.
you seem to indicate that i have changed positions. Have I? i believe i'm still saying that a dollar for dollar comparision is not an equivalent comparison.
are you really interested in this discussion, or just having an argument?
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Isn't there always some other gigantic public works project on the table such that even if anything ultimately trickles down it does so at a rate that keeps only the contractors prosperous?
Maybe, the city is better off with a much lower tax base if it means that the basic services of people in the city are met or at least are as fair as can be to all who have a stake in the city. Perhaps, it is better in the name of ending class stratification that we as a whole (taken as a gross sum - pun intended) so that more as individuals do better.
That will cause it's own set of problems, but at least it will be our problems for us to solve and not the problems for those who hold the keys to solve.
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Just because an institution like a school is a non-profit organization that doesn't directly return funds to the city that funds it DOES NOT mean that therefore the city gets nothing financially out if it. If McDonald's wants to hire workers in DC, and none of the prospective workers know how to read, write, speak, understand english, or do basic math, then McDonald's won't hire anyone in DC. The schooling of the prospective workers is what allows them to become workers who then pay taxes back to the city?
GET IT? FINALLY? AM I GETTING THAARRRUUUU TO YOU ALVA!!!???!!!
The same goes with the brain surgeon argument. Even if the city doesn't fund medical schools, how in the hell are people going to go to medical school without any prior schooling in elementary subjects such as reading, writing arithmetic, basic science, etc????
Look, this is an argument. You made an "argument." It's completely bogus. You lost. Get over it.
I would advise you to stop, sit down, and THINK before you write down any kind of response or worse, pull any levers in a voting booth.
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your points do indeed have merit, but are a bit off target. you seem to not know much about stats here in dc. also, perhaps you don't realize that we already fund schols and they already exist. Also, we are continuing to close schools mainly because of a drop in student age population. and oh, we're losing population in general so most of our hiring is in attempt to bring people from the outside. and we spend more per student than nearly any other place in the country. your answers ar erroneous.
i'm sure you don't see that, but you are at least quite good with the insults. well played. i especially like the "alva" part. that was cute.
it's a shame that you think it is such a simple logic problem. You have no sense of the scope of the facts, as is made obvious by your simpleton replies, and your childish manner of delivery.
you use wit to mask your ignorance of the situation.
sad, really.