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Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont

A report has been posted on the Critical Mass list that cops have set up ticket traps aimed at pedestrians and cyclists at busy intersections downtown. A rider(not me) reported being ticketed at 14th and P st, and similar traps in the Dupont Circle and Farragut Square area.
Fortunately, there's a simple way to nip these traps in the bud — don't stop for cops, and don't pay jaywalking or cycling tickets! Nothing happens if you refuse to pay, and the last city to try issuing arrest warrants for this — NYC under Guilian — got a storm of national bad press over it.

It is very, very difficult for cops to stop a cyclist by force without escalating to lethal force, regardless of the vehicle they are using. There is just SO much traffic that bikes can penetrate and cars cannot, and no fat, donut-eating cop could ever hope to catch a bike on foot.

In addition, in the 1990's an arrest resulting from a pedestrian refusing to show ID over a jaywalking ticket cost the city a $400,000 judgment when she took the government to court.

I have ridden by those areas all the time — with no ID — seeing cops but not being bothered, no doubt as these cops know damned well I'm not stopping.

If enough people decide to directly resist this twisted sort of law enforcement, the city will have no choice but to throw in the towel.

Back in 1999, the Golden Triangle BID got police to launch a crackdown of a similar sort, and made the mistake of declaring on FOX News that "unlicensed bike messengers" would be a specific target. The messenger licensing law had never gone into effect, sunk by heavy courier resistance, so they were blowing smoke.

After I warned them in person and over the Internet that this could provoke street blockades in places like Connecticut and K(in their turf), they went back on FOX the next night to announce that messengers would not be targeted, and soon the whole program died.

I'm going to guess this is going to be another short-lived publicity blitz, leading to fistfuls of tickets that can't ever be collected — and a lot of very, very angry bikers and pedestrians!
 
 
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Re: Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont

how do you come to the conclusion that stopping a bicyclist is paramount to using lethal force?
 

Re: Re: Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont

Have you ever seen the videos of the critical bike rides in NY during the RNC when the cops try to take a few bikers down. The cop's fat asses almost broke the guys legs and arms during the struggle and the mopeds they where needlessly driving through the crowds(as if that was enough to break down solidarity) ended up injuring a lot of people. I they tried that in DC with the way traffic is they WOULD end up killing someone of very very badly injuring someone to the point where that person's life would be on hold and their pockets be burning in dept from hospital bills. Just think about it...bike verses moped, motorcycle or car...hmmmm not good.
 

Re: Re: Re: Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont

why do you insist on fleeing from the police? if you run, and during your flight you injure yourself, there is no culpability on the part of law enforcement. do not flee, do not break the law. point blank.
 
Reply: Re: Re: Re: Re: Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont / 30 Mar 2008
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Re: Re: Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont

Here are the ways you can stop a resisting biker by force:

1: Pursue and tackle the rider by bike, or motorcycle(he can evade a car in traffic), risking serious injusry to both the target and yourself.

2: Ram the bike, risking a crash in traffic and possible fatal injury. If you chase a bike in a car and catch up, what do you do then-ram him? Try to cut him off? If you pull ahead and stop blocking the road he can pull a quick U-turn and you are left trying to turn around and get moving again. By the time you are moving, he is GONE.

3: Stick something in the spokes, causing a crash in traffic and possible injury or even death if the rider is thrown into traffic.

4: Fire on the cyclist with some sort of weapon. Even a Taser or pepper spray again risks a crash in traffic.

You cannot roadblock a bike unless you have official permisson and manpower to block all roads out of the area with orange construction netting!

In April 2002(IMF), an attempt by cops to mass arrest a Critical Mass ride, executed with bike cops deploying a "roadblock," caught only 37 riders out of an estimated 230 as people rode directly through the spaces in the police line. I was there and easily escaped even though I was specifically targeted by a top official in a red command car. After three failed attempts to go around the block and block me he threw in the towel.

As far as I am concerned, anyone who tries to stop me by force(ABDUCT) or ticket(ROB)me on the road is the enemy, just as he would be in Iraq for trying to do the same thing.
 

Re: Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont

I saw a bicyclist getting ticketed at 14th and U St. last week. It was around 9 AM, so apparently the cops are ticketing people on the way to work.
 

Re: Re: Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont

This sounds likely, as this way they can hassle "inside the system" bikers who say, work at EPA, while ignoring messengers who look different and are much faster. It is easy pickings and easy money for cops to ticket government workers and office workers on foot or bikes.

This tracks with jaywalking enforcement: post cops on K st and surrounding areas and ticket unresisting yuppies. Once it is legal precedent that tickets are written, these laws become available to use for "pretext stops" in the neighborhoods when cops have another, unrelated motivation to fuck with someone.

This is why it's so important to set a precedent that pedestrian and cyclist stops are NOT made in DC-to prevent "Driving while Black" from being extended to include "Walking while Black," "Biking while Black," or "being out after curfew." We cannot allow the cops to have additional "tools" to stop people they or their masters don't want in newly gentrifying neighborhoods!
 

Re: Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont

What wrong with police giving to tickets to cars, bike, peds who break DC laws.?????
 

Re: Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont

Luke, an editor of this website, offers some peculiar legal advice:
"Don't stop for cops, and don't pay jaywalking or cycling tickets! Nothing happens if you refuse to pay, and the last city to try issuing arrest warrants for this — NYC under Guilian — got a storm of national bad press over it."

No matter how you feel about the police, authoritarian enforcement of the law, or whatnot, all of the above—particularly not stopping when clearly called upon to do so by a police officer—are very bad ideas.
 

Re: Re: Cops harassing cyclists, peds at 14th and P, Farragut, Dupont

So lets say the law says you have to punch all Italian people in the stomach would you follow it then??? When a cop tells you too stop and you are a free human being should you really listen to that? Unless you are going around punching people or shooting people or putting other people in danger then you really don't need the police. The police should be there to keep everyone safe and if you are not harming anyone but yourself then you don't need to bother with police!
 

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